Level Sync broken past level 50

[zdub303]

What's the point in synch the equip even in lvl 50 istances ? What's the point to farm for my full allagan gear and weapon if i can use it to full only inside coil ? Is that supposed to be a joke ?

To be fair, this is a lack of content issue. HM dungeons, CT, and EM Primals is where you should be able to use that gear outside of coil.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

To be fair, this is a lack of content issue. HM dungeons, CT, and EM Primals is where you should be able to use that gear outside of coil.

no, you got my reply wrong. My reply is aimed to the idea to synch gear in inferior dungeons 50. Why i should work my ass to get an allagan weapon if i can use it full fully only in coil and then synch it in WP at the level of a ilvl 55 weapon ? For the same reasons, when they'll release superior weapons, they'll get synched outside content aimed for that ilvl. It completely destroy the idea at the base to obtain loot: becoming stronger just to find yourself weak as before.

[zdub303]

no, you got my reply wrong.

No I got it, my point was, you shouldn't still want to do WP if you have an Allagan weapon, you're past that point in the gear progression. Its just that there isn't that much after WP, and because we're 35 ilevels higher than the content we can run all run it in 15m or less making it more efficient than.. well.. AK, which is the only other dungeon at the moment.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

No I got it, my point was, you shouldn't still want to do WP if you have an Allagan weapon, you're past that point in the gear progression. Its just that there isn't that much after WP, and because we're 35 ilevels higher than the content we can run all run it in 15m or less making it more efficient than.. well.. AK, which is the only other dungeon at the moment.

Even if i had an allagan weapon and i am after that part of progression,doesn't mean i don't want do it ever again. I could do it to equip a second class with that gear or with myth, for relic, for money, because i want...hell, i plan to do dzemael for coliseum gear which i am after since 1.23.
Just because i passed over the progression, don't mean i should forgot of them. I'm totally ok with level synching in lower dungeons, i don't feel the need to synch my gear in content 50, nor i think it would help something. This is just another attempt to kill speedruns (which i hate, but i don't try to stop people doing them. I just queue in df)

[zdub303]

Even if i had an allagan weapon and i am after that part of progression,doesn't mean i don't want do it ever again. I could do it to equip a second class with that gear or with myth, for relic for money, because i want...hell, i plan to do dzemael for coliseum gear which i am after since 1.23.
Just because i passed over the progression, don't mean i should forgot of them. I'm totally ok with level synching in lower dungeons, i don't feel the need to synch my gear in content 50, nor i think it would help something. This is just another attempt to kill speedruns (which i hate, but i don't try to stop people doing them. I just queue in df)

When you really think about it, there is very little difference between syncing for WP and syncing for DD. The biggest problem, and why they can't/won't implement ilevel sync right now is because there are no other dungeons. If there were multiple i55, i60, i70, and i80 dungeons. You wouldn't care so much about ilvl sync, it would essentially be the same as level syncing for leveling dungeons. The problem is, they haven't released these dungeons yet and that's why having that Allagan weapon would be meaningless outside of coil, as there is no 2.0 content outside of coil that an Allagan weapon would not sync down to.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

When you really think about it, there is very little difference between syncing for WP and syncing for DD. The biggest problem, and why they can't/won't implement ilevel sync right now is because there are no other dungeons. If there were multiple i55, i60, i70, and i80 dungeons. You wouldn't care so much about ilvl sync, it would essentially be the same as level syncing for leveling dungeons. The problem is, they haven't released these dungeons yet and that's why having that Allagan weapon would be meaningless outside of coil, as there is no 2.0 content outside of coil that an Allagan weapon would not sync down to.

There is a lot insted. If i take a lvl 20 dungeon with a lvl 20 class, it's natural i have equip for a lvl 20. But when i'm doing a lvl 50 dungeon with lvl 50 equip, i should be gimped because the single iLvl is highter ? That's madness.

[zdub303]

There is a lot insted. If i take a lvl 20 dungeon with a lvl 20 class, it's natural i have equip for a lvl 20. But when i'm doing a lvl 50 dungeon with lvl 50 equip, i should be gimped because the single iLvl is highter ? That's madness.

Maybe its just perspective then, I view WP as a level 55 dungeon, AK as a level 60 dungeon, HM Primals as level 70 Trials, and Coil as a level 90 dungeon(is it really a 'raid' if its still just an 8 person party?). When you think of it like that, there is functionally no difference. The problem is, AK and WP are the only level dungeons we can grind for myth tomes. If we had a full suite of dungeons from 55 up through 80, ilevel sync would make more sense.

It would be beneficial for the long term health of the game, at least in my opinion, but a system like that isn't ready until they've actually released dungeons with that kind of equipment requirement. Otherwise, all ilevel sync would do atm would be to downsync most of the gear the majority of the player base is working on, which would just serve to piss most people off.

However, the kind of culture that not having ilevel sync is currently fostering is that a person's worth in game is their ilevel. I've DF'd a few WPs with people who weren't full darklight and it was awful when compare to doing SRs with people that are ~i80 average right now. With ilevel sync, hardcore players and casual players are essentially on generally the same footing when running content that is below max tier.