Warrior "buff" in 2.1: not what we are expecting?

[Wizhard]

You mean like how the paladin has been flat out better on almost everything else so far?

And now making the paladins inferior is fine because of that? I am not against these changes, warriors need a serious buff, but then SE also needs to change the paladins so they wont lag behind now.

[Estray]

I don't believe "balancing the classes" means "giving power to one class"

For how one-sided things have been, yeah. WAR only goes to stuff if you don't have PLD available, or you're with people that don't mind. I play both, and it's annoying that even though I'm better on WAR, and have better gear, I'm still less useful compared to PLD. Their only other option would be to nerf PLD, which would make content harder and make everyone angry, on top of PLD's throwing fits because their class isn't as good. Half this thread is PLD's saying how stupid it is that WAR is on par with them now. I'll be happy when I don't get written off automatically as a bad choice for groups because I'm a WAR. How often do you think WAR is in Twintania? It's a whole lot of PLD complaints summing up to "BUT I'M THE MAIN TANK. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. NOBODY ELSE ALLOWED."

[Estray]

And now making the paladins inferior is fine because of that? I am not against these changes, warriors need a serious buff, but then SE also needs to change the paladins so they wont lag behind now.

They aren't going to lag behind. I looked over the skill changes, and even with the buffs warrior is going to be only be on par with paladin. Warriors are going to stay skill based, with paladins having access to more on demand mitigation. Just because paladins aren't first pick automatically doesn't mean they're a worse choice. It'll depend on the fights. You can't say with the skill changes that warriors will be able to do speed runs of Wanderer's Palace as quickly as paladins.

[CrashOkami]

For how one-sided things have been, yeah. WAR only goes to stuff if you don't have PLD available, or you're with people that don't mind. I play both, and it's annoying that even though I'm better on WAR, and have better gear, I'm still less useful compared to PLD. Their only other option would be to nerf PLD, which would make content harder and make everyone angry, on top of PLD's throwing fits because their class isn't as good.

Everything but; I wanna start a Warrior after my Paladin is maxed out, I've already created the character even to ensure name availability. Well, hoping the patch balances everything out at once, so the team can work on bringing over classes from XI like Samurai etc instead of spending more time balancing

[Royze]

just bring back WAR from 1.0.
What was wrong with Berserk/Rampage stances? It was the most enjoyable job to play in 1.0 too.

[Bethor]

HIGHFIVE!!!
/roar

<---- Why this forum thinks im a gladiator? >.<

Because.... it only shows classes and not jobs I guess! Har har.

Edit: Oh shit, wait. you're right its bugged. I'm an Archer with a crown haha

[Wizhard]

They aren't going to lag behind. I looked over the skill changes, and even with the buffs warrior is going to be only be on par with paladin. Warriors are going to stay skill based, with paladins having access to more on demand mitigation. Just because paladins aren't first pick automatically doesn't mean they're a worse choice. It'll depend on the fights. You can't say with the skill changes that warriors will be able to do speed runs of Wanderer's Palace as quickly as paladins.

Wanderer's Palace? Really? o_0
Im talking about twintania here. About how a warrior will now be able to mitigate EVERY SINGLE Death Sentence while paladin cannot.

[ZDamned]

Wanderer's Palace? Really? o_0
Im talking about twintania here. About how a warrior will now be able to mitigate EVERY SINGLE Death Sentence while paladin cannot.

You mean how your able to mitigate every attack, and for 6 seconds we can be on par with your Shield Oath? Seriously, STFU, and uninstall. Your not getting worse, were just getting better. It's so disgusting that people like you want there to be a "Master Race" of tanks. News flash, Warriors are here, and are tanks too, so stop pouting, and deal with it, or leave.

Paladins can tank Twintania just fine as it is now, Just because warriors will be able to mitigate on par with a Paladin's CONSTANT mitigation for 6 seconds at a time doesn't make Paladins Trash! Paladins are STILL BETTER!

[Hanabira]

Wanderer's Palace? Really? o_0
Im talking about twintania here. About how a warrior will now be able to mitigate EVERY SINGLE Death Sentence while paladin cannot.

considering twintania has been solo tanked by a pld, i dont think it matters that you cant mitigate every one.

[Wizhard]

You mean how your able to mitigate every attack, and for 6 seconds we can be on par with your Shield Oath? Seriously, STFU, and uninstall. Your not getting worse, were just getting better. It's so disgusting that people like you want there to be a "Master Race" of tanks. News flash, Warriors are here, and are tanks too, so stop pouting, and deal with it, or leave.

Paladins can tank Twintania just fine as it is now, Just because warriors will be able to mitigate on par with a Paladin's CONSTANT mitigation for 6 seconds at a time doesn't make Paladins Trash! Paladins are STILL BETTER!

Okay then. Give us Defiance.