Scholar is the better healer...

[Karti]

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First of all, half of Succor is a damage shield, the other half is a heal. So yeah, the healing by itself blows nuts, especially in light to that of the White Mage.

Adloquium is the single target version of Succor, so no it is definitely not a bursty heal. It is a light heal with a mitigation shield. Lustrate is really the only prominent burst heal at a Scholar's disposal. Physick is the spammable burst heal, but it really doesn't hold a candle to that of a White Mage's kit.

No offense, but I'm not entirely sure you understand what I was saying....

[Little_Lulu]

Oh /yawn.... It's this thread again.

[Ragnaro]

I have both WHM and SCH also, and I prefer using WHM. Everyone is going to have their preferances as to what class they like. I don't really care which is considered the better, I play the game because it's fun

[sharazisspecial]

First of all, half of Succor is a damage shield, the other half is a heal. So yeah, the healing by itself blows nuts, especially in light to that of the White Mage.

Adloquium is the single target version of Succor, so no it is definitely not a bursty heal. It is a light heal with a mitigation shield. Lustrate is really the only prominent burst heal at a Scholar's disposal. Physick is the spammable burst heal, but it really doesn't hold a candle to that of a White Mage's kit...

Beaten twintania? Sch is the super star healer in that fight.
I blame SE to some extent. Designing the fight in sch favor.

Adloquium>big delayed hits
Lustrate>Healing debuffs
Aetherflow + free fairy heals and lustrate>dps check meaning foe used over ballad
Succor>fireball

The amount of effective healing a sch can do to tank in the space of death sentence with healing debuff and next auto attack.Whm cant compare.
800-2400shield + 1000 +650 +1300
Compare that to whm's
1650 + 150-380

Ok during twister phase and beyond. Very often whm may have to solo heal death sentence,its easy when virus is up or when the rng is good. Now the thing is if virus and eye for an eye is down , or sometimes even so. Twintania may decide to effectively one shot tank. Something like death sentence 6.5k with another hit timed straight after before heals will hit. Even if the cure2 is timed perfect .
Whm has nothing to deal with this situation really, except like i said virus and eye for an eye or perhaps a swiftcast stoneskin? But sch can mitigate enough of the death sentence that the tank will live long enough for the heal to register.

If SE are going to keep designing content like this then whm is punished. Content where tank can get one shot by a big hits or two hits within .1 seconds ish

They need to have varied healing requirements like some fights.

[Garnatian]

and this is coming from a white mage.

Not sure why you point this fact out. It just means you're even more biased towards SCH being better. Grass is always greener.

[sharazisspecial]

Not sure why you point this fact out. It just means you're even more biased towards SCH being better. Grass is always greener.

If they keep designing fights the same as they are doing then equally geared sch better then a whm. Just simply because sch can bypass alot of the difficulty by pre shielding and can burst tank heal with lustrate.

I said this before many times having potentially higher aoe healing in certain circumstances is useless if they dont ever design fights to ever need more then soil + succor spam.

e.g whm can aoe 1100 hp every 2.5 seconds with cure 3 back to back. Something sch can't do. However not a single fight needs more then 400hp from each healer every 2.5 seconds. This makes cure 3 useless especially since its mana inefficient and requires everyone to group up.

[Ryno165]

So lets just hope they give us a Red Mage, with at least Cure II, and Regen. With all the Scholors DoTs....

Then we can all be like, 2x Red Mage > who cares.....

LOL

[Karti]

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lol you're still not grasping what I'm saying.

[Tremara]

Beaten twintania? Sch is the super star healer in that fight.
I blame SE to some extent. Designing the fight in sch favor.

Unfortunatly true.

For example the heal-debuff on tank after death sentence ... for WHM it´s just Manaburn, for SCH to some extend too but Lustrate shines cuz it gets not effected by the debuff. Unfair - oh yeah, jealous - a bit (come on, Lustrate is instant and not on GCD), complaining about? - hell no ...

[Noxaddo]

Beaten twintania? Sch is the super star healer in that fight.
I blame SE to some extent. Designing the fight in sch favor.

Only time I feel extremely weak in front of scholars