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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinagleABagel View Post
    Ok, I'll be sure to post a picture of my small FC in a big house with the gil we collected to buy it. I encourage the 200+ other FCs on my server to do the same.
    LOL, to make the argument, you must also post a picture of the price paid in FC points for the same house. See my point? You cannot possibly know that the amount of FC points to obtain a large house is out of reach for a small FC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    LOL, to make the argument, you must also post a picture of the price paid in FC points for the same house. See my point? You cannot possibly know that the amount of FC points to obtain a large house is out of reach for a small FC.
    Why do you think it will be FC points? Everything, literally everything, points to it being GIL. Your idea is to CHANGE that, why - I don't know. Hence why I think you are being less than honest with your posts.

    All of your "evidence" is hand waving. Your logic doesn't make sense given the larger framework of the game. You've not offered a single shred of evidence on ANYTHING. I'm not going to take what you see at face value because it goes against what Yoshi already shared with us.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinagleABagel View Post
    Why do you think it will be FC points? Everything, literally everything, points to it being GIL. Your idea is to CHANGE that, why - I don't know. Hence why I think you are being less than honest with your posts.

    All of your "evidence" is hand waving. Your logic doesn't make sense given the larger framework of the game. You've not offered a single shred of evidence on ANYTHING. I'm not going to take what you see at face value because it goes against what Yoshi already shared with us.
    because that's what this discussion is about. In order to say the price is out of reach for a small FC in FC points, we have to know how much a large house would cost if we could buy it with FC points. Therefore, you cannot possibly make the argument that if converted to FC points a small FC could not afford one. Your argument is based on conjecture.
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    point is if you want to waste your gil i would think your crazy if you can do it and use it for something else on something you could do with a little work just like farming myth gear or dl gear you cant buy your stuff well i think it should be the same way with land plots for companies who worked harder should get nicer plots, not saying that necessarily gets you a large house you still have to build / craft / buy houses but you can only build a house respective to the size of the land plots. Free company housing and personal player housing is different so to me it should be treated a bit differently. Anyone can spam ak/wp and sell philo items and make 200k a day thats not work thats just mindless grind. Free companies are about community and you gain the housing points by helping and working with a large and active community / free company population.

    Waste your money on personal housing f you want to show off how much gil you have but reward free companies for what they are supposed to be for community and working together in large groups they didn't make them support 512 members to hold 5 thats what linkshells are for. Go out run dungeons help new members do quests, dungeons etc and your points will go through the roof i know we done it and have been doing it since release. and will breach 3 million points probably tonight its by helping people and thats what an mmo is supposed to be all about but people get lost in the instant gratification era and forget what a little work and working together is all about.
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    Last edited by dcdistro; 11-15-2013 at 12:27 PM.

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    Using FC points to purchase FC housing removes RMT from the equation. That's good enough for me.
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    why are ppl keep talking about RMT buy house while the info goes like this: FC need to REACH CERTAIN RANK to be able to purchase house, and if you think RMT will make an FC, farm all that fate to get to lets say R5, and spend lets say 1kk-2kk gil to buy house and got ban, then you are wrong in the head, they are not that retard and do thing that bring them no profit.

    back on topic: the idea look good on paper but it doesnt work when you try to cause trouble to certain FC or player and it is not gonna work. You will cause trouble to the casual and the FC with low number of ppl and even more you cause trouble to newly created FC, they will not be able to get their own house/base for a long long time, while with gil as currency they still need time to gather gil but will not be a pain in the ass to get even with their little play time.
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  7. #47
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    The point is that free companies are supposed to be about community hence the large capacity size.
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    Last edited by dcdistro; 11-16-2013 at 12:27 AM.

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    Whoa, hold on here - why did RMT end up in this discussion? You don't manage your process by rule breakers. Rely on SE to solve this problem as it's intended. If we wanted to snuff out RMT by altering game processes, then just remove the market. Seems a bit drastic? Yeah, exactly.

    RMT is going to be part of housing no matter what you do - unless you do the above. Remember crafting for furniture and other housing pieces?

    Also, don't you have to be allied to a GC to even participate (no, not talking about points)? No RMT is going to bother with that when they are making their money via markets. The idea of RMT controlling prices on land is outlandish.

    Desperate posters are getting desperate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotem View Post
    Using FC points to purchase FC housing removes RMT from the equation. That's good enough for me.
    This is a very good point, and one I hadn't thought of. However, as the other posters have pointed out, we don't know if there would be any incentive for RMT to buy a house at all. The only thing I can think of is if they were to sell the deeds. But to want an actual house, there would need to be be some pretty hefty bonuses for them to want it in the first place.
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    Last edited by Molly_Millions; 11-15-2013 at 11:49 PM.

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    No because this only benefits large FC. Gil is the only thing that guarantees everyone has an equal chance of getting an FC house. And honestly if you have so many members that you are able to save up that many seals then you should have no issues gathering up gil to purchase the house.
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