Could MRD Possible Be The Best Melee DPS Class ? (Theory Crathing)

[Calib0s]

For multipliers, MAR would get 20% from Maim, 11.1% (1/.9 actually) from Storm's Eye, 2.375% from Internal Release, and 2.22% from Raging Strikes. Berserk adds 2.667% to special attacks and 8.89% to auto-attacks.

Put there together and we get these formulas:

MAR: (218.02 * 1.02667 + 83.33 * 1.0889) * 1.2 / .9 * 1.02375 * 1.022 = 438.8 potency per GCD

It looks like you left out Blood for Blood in the Marauder Calculations, which would be an additional 5% overall (20/80 * .2). Thus the average potency per GCD should be:

(218.02 * 1.02667 + 83.33 * 1.0889) * 1.2 / .9 * 1.02375 * 1.022 * 1.05 = 460.78

Dragoon still has higher base strength, access to more secondary DPS stats on their armor, and doesn't have to worry about being threat capped, but potency per GCD looks to be nearly identical.

[Kitru]

It looks like you left out Blood for Blood in the Marauder Calculations

Not entirely sure how I missed that, but yeah, you're right. MRD with all of those CDs simply matches DRG on potency per GCD and DRG is going to get more out of each point of potency thanks to higher STR and better secondary stats.

[ZDamned]

Not entirely sure how I missed that, but yeah, you're right. MRD with all of those CDs simply matches DRG on potency per GCD and DRG is going to get more out of each point of potency thanks to higher STR and better secondary stats.

This also works out to be an impractical comparison because of the fact that it works with Butchers Block, which in itself will rip aggro from the tank on any encounter with more than 20 seconds worth of GCD's. So the true Damage Dealing capability of Marauder is still lower due tot he fact that they NEED to only use Storms Eye over and over again. VERY TP Inefficient, and lacking in overall Potency.

[Grembo]

This also works out to be an impractical comparison because of the fact that it works with Butchers Block, which in itself will rip aggro from the tank on any encounter with more than 20 seconds worth of GCD's. So the true Damage Dealing capability of Marauder is still lower due tot he fact that they NEED to only use Storms Eye over and over again. VERY TP Inefficient, and lacking in overall Potency.

You know you can keep an eye on the aggro bars and cycle between both combo's right?

[ZDamned]

You know you can keep an eye on the aggro bars and cycle between both combo's right?

Yes I do! It's part of why I said what I said, and it falls under 2 issues.

1) Average Potency per GCD is automatically lower than what is being calculated due to the change up in Rotation, since you can't just "SE, BB, SE BB..."

and 2) The chances for a heavy high end Skull Sunder/Butcher Block Critical Hit to Spike you over enmity would force you to keep yourself terribly low on the enemy aggro meter. Something that can't be done if Marauder is in fact such amazing DPS. =P

You have for some reason stated that HT is 10%; that is not correct.

Umm Yes it is. Heavy Thrust = 10% more damage dealt.

http://www.ffxivinfo.com/class/lance...y=heavy-thrust

[Gamemako]

Umm Yes it is. Heavy Thrust = 10% more damage dealt.

Well damn, I stand corrected. Welp, there goes basically the whole advantage that DRG had...

//EDIT: Yup, I've had it with Kitru's attitude problem. Ignorelisted, don't expect a response.

[Leiron]

//EDIT: Yup, I've had it with Kitru's attitude problem. Ignorelisted, don't expect a response.

TO be frank, you're being just as bad as he is with that kind of response.

[SwordCoheir]

This also works out to be an impractical comparison because of the fact that it works with Butchers Block, which in itself will rip aggro from the tank on any encounter with more than 20 seconds worth of GCD's. So the true Damage Dealing capability of Marauder is still lower due tot he fact that they NEED to only use Storms Eye over and over again. VERY TP Inefficient, and lacking in overall Potency.

It's only a 10 TP difference between BB and SE combo, either way MRD will have access to Invigorate as well so that should handle any TP inefficiencies that MRD might have.