Red Ring of Death!

[Arcturius]

I may or may not agree with you on some points, but I have a 2 thousand dollar high end gaming PC and a high end gaming router. I play just fine 95% of the time. But there are those random times where I will just lag mercilessly for 2 hours. I check the internet provider and still have my 50 MB speed and I temporarily turn on a VPN manager to see if that is the issue. I even get physical on certain occasions and plug in my Ethernet cord. And to no avail the speed is just terrible in game. So excuse me for thinking that the problem could pooooossibly be on the other end. How dare I ever think my gear isn't the problem. *cough always checks my end before any other cough.* And this lag tends to happen any time before, during and around 5 pm. Since tons of people are getting on it could possibly be server lag. Also just because you don't experience a problem doesn't mean it is not there. So if I glitched through the floor and no one else did I should just keep my mouth shut or I am just a complainer? k. People will speak up when there is a problem. Their voice does not affect you so there is no reason to go out and attack those who are experiencing problems and actually have the guts to speak out in a community that is filled with the most cynical a-holes in the history of MMO gaming.

[Duuude007]

Oh right, we're back to 'if it's not an L2P issue it has to be the player's PC/connection issue because it can't possibly be an SE issue'. We're done here; you might find talking in circles entertaining but I'd rather go watch paint dry to be honest.

Are you kidding me? Blame SE all you want, but I did not know what was causing my issue, and confirmed after troubleshooting that it was my own hardware.

speedtest.net didn't tell me where the problem was, so I began ruling out the middlemen between myself and SE.

The PC? good performance and service scans, up to date, solid hardware.
The modem? Working with the cable company strongly indicates no issues.
What was in the middle? The router.

If you want to blame SE before your own house is in order, that's your perogative, but don't expect us, or SE, to care, until you have concrete evidence that isn't purely anecdotal.

[Baneus]

I may or may not agree with you on some points, but I have a 2 thousand dollar high end gaming PC and a high end gaming router. I play just fine 95% of the time. But there are those random times where I will just lag mercilessly for 2 hours. I check the internet provider and still have my 50 MB speed and I temporarily turn on a VPN manager to see if that is the issue. I even get physical on certain occasions and plug in my Ethernet cord. And to no avail the speed is just terrible in game. So excuse me for thinking that the problem could pooooossibly be on the other end. How dare I ever think my gear isn't the problem. *cough always checks my end before any other cough.* And this lag tends to happen any time before, during and around 5 pm. Since tons of people are getting on it could possibly be server lag. Also just because you don't experience a problem doesn't mean it is not there. So if I glitched through the floor and no one else did I should just keep my mouth shut or I am just a complainer? k. People will speak up when there is a problem. Their voice does not affect you so there is no reason to go out and attack those who are experiencing problems and actually have the guts to speak out in a community that is filled with the most cynical a-holes in the history of MMO gaming.

To be fair a lot of people don't actually start troubleshooting with their own gear. There are those (you and I included) that do, however, we get lumped in with the clueless clods that shouldn't be operating anything more complicated than a calculator

[CSX]

Hmm, I play from EST-NA and on a Japland server and I don't have issues. I don't have issues on the DF servers either. Maybe you guys can try http://www.wowinterface.com/download...atencyFix.html if you haven't already?

But I think the dev's did mention something somewhere about it being an issue though so I dunno. . . .

[Castillan]

Connection issues eh?

I live in Australia. My ping to the servers in Canada (where I play on) is around 290ms, full time. That's about as fast as it possibly gets. My ping time to the USA border router in LA is 190ms on average and rarely budges. That again is basically as good as it gets. I can leave the ping running full time to the Zalera server, and see that it doesn't vary much.

However, when I'm in an instance, my in-game receive time is rarely below 1500ms, and can hover around the 2000ms mark fairly often. This is all while my server ping time at the network level is still around the 290ms mark.

So, tell me again, how is this a network/connection issue at my end (aside from the speed of light limitations to get from one side of the world to the other)?

[Noutaja]

If 300ms (pos check delay) on top of your 20-200ms (depending on your location/isp) is not lag, then i do not know what is. Id guess my ping is around 400-500ms with this ridiculous netcode, and that stands for all of us european players. I certainly get hit ALOT when im already out of the ring. I need to be out of the AoE for just around 0.5 seconds before its cast or i will get hit... and that is certainly alot. But as ive said before, this game would be far too easy with no lag.

Im guessing the OP is american since hes not experiencing as much lag as alot of people are. Might just be a troll though. I mean, HOW on earth can you state that the problem is our ISP when theres an automatical extra 300ms on top of the real ping... have you experienced 300ms+ in any other game? Try playing an FPS game with that ping.
Well, gladly this game is playable with ridiculously high latency..

[Stormblossom]

I have this issue intermittently. The problem is my network connection, as I'm playing on a US server from Japan. But is the problem REALLY my network? A large percentage of the population HAS these issues, so the real problem is that the game is not designed to compensate for a reasonable amount of latency. They either need to adjust the timing of AE to allow for people in a higher ping range to react reliably, or better yet, move dodge detection to client side. Hell, basic MOVEMENT detection must ALREADY be client side, considering how farming bots were blipping from sheep spawn to sheep spawn in coerthas, so existing implementation is worst of both worlds.

Oh, and before the inevitable YOU SIGNED UP FOR THIS BY PLAYING FROM JAPAN ON A US SERVER!!! Firestorm commences, I'll just point out that I actually have this problem relatively infrequently. My 3 RL friends who are all playing from the USA in WA/OR have it during most of our play sessions.

[Duuude007]

A large percentage of the population HAS these issues.

Ooh, delicious statistics. Bring on the citations!

[Moktor]

Then why, pray tell, is this not happening to everyone?

Oh, sorry. It isn't a poor design if it doesn't happen to everyone. Yet in other games it doesn't happen to *anyone*. Funny.

[MisakiSatomi]

Check with SE.

In that order. If you choose to skip a step, nobody will take you seriously.

Pretty sure everyone else is at this step. And so...