Quote Originally Posted by Steeled View Post
We can do that in 40 minutes each (normal pulls) = 1600 minutes which is... 27 hours or we can do it in 20 minutes (easily!) so half the time.
WP can be done in 20 minutes with normal pulls and without rushing and/or pulling all rooms at once, unless something goes wrong (it can happen, we are not machines). If you really rush it, it should take you a bit more than 10 min., or even less if all party members have good gear and the run goes smoothly (yeah, like in the famous video). But whatever, what I'm saying is that you don't have to rush it, or force anyone to do it, to do a fast 20 min. run. That's how I usually do it with my FC, unless someone is in a hurry and we all agree to make it fast.

Anyway, what I find amusing is that some people go into the DF to do a speedrun. Are they aware that with a random party of strangers that aren't used to play together (or even if just one of them is not used to play with the rest), if they try to rush it they're increasing their chances to wipe and it would take them more time to finish the dungeon? And that's if they even finish it.

And yes, some of us (tanks) don't use the DF anymore thanks to some people's attitudes. I used to do random dungeons just for the sake of helping with the shortage of tanks, but nowadays I just do my weekly WP/AK runs with my FC (plenty of tomestomes), or help them when they need it. I'm terribly sorry for that myself, but I couldn't take it anymore when I was having fun just in a handful of runs. I play to have fun, not to be stressed by a random bot/jerk, and/or to see how they belittle any other party member. I gave them almost three months of opportunities, though :P