Doppelganger Screenshot Contest (NA) - Discussion Thread

[Punainen]

YOU don't decide what's creative. Just because the idea was POPULAR, does not mean it was not creative. Dressing up as Impressio was uncreative. It's a Coatee set and a pumpkin head--bam Impressio...boring. All the entries that stood out to me, won. I don't recall being impressed by any that didn't make it. A few made it that I was not impressed by, but that's me. Would I have chosen the winners different? A few, yes, for the most part, no. There is no scientific or mathematical approach to creativity. It's an opinion.

I entered that egg painting contest too. I worked real hard on it and thought I did real well. I didn't win, and lots I thought were terrible did win...I didn't go and pitch a fit over it, I didn't try to claim the judging was unfair or rigged. The judges judge by their OWN opinion, and apparently my entry did not impress them. Oh well, life moves on. You all need to realize that this is NOT as big a deal as you're making it out to be.

[Relentless]

You all need to realize that this is NOT as big a deal as you're making it out to be.

The Ahriman Necklace is the rarest item in the game. You might not care about that kind of thing but many do.

[Punainen]

The Ahriman Necklace is the rarest item in the game. You might not care about that kind of thing but many do.

Is it? So what? It's probably just a bragging rights piece that most people will never actually wear except when they wanna show off. And in all likelihood they'll give it out at another contest and another and another like they did with that Scarf.

[Selkie]

-stuff and things-

In other words, "I don't find these things valuable enough to pitch a fit over therefore you're wrong in doing so."

You wouldn't react the way we did. Fair enough. You thought it was judged fairly. Fair enough. We have differing opinions. So far yours is a minority voice here. I'm not attacking you for your opinions, but I'm not going to be silent on issues I care about. Just because you don't care or wouldn't react how I do, doesn't mean that I am somehow lesser for my own actions. A criteria was set for the contest and I felt that it was not followed. You felt that it was. By your own logic, you do not get to decide what is and isn't creative either.

[Punainen]

In other words, "I don't find these things valuable enough to pitch a fit over therefore you're wrong in doing so."

You wouldn't react the way we did. Fair enough. You thought it was judged fairly. Fair enough. We have differing opinions. So far yours is a minority voice here. I'm not attacking you for your opinions, but I'm not going to be silent on issues I care about. Just because you don't care or wouldn't react how I do, doesn't mean that I am somehow lesser for my own actions. A criteria was set for the contest and I felt that it was not followed. You felt that it was. By your own logic, you do not get to decide what is and isn't creative either.

Nope, I don't get to decide and I didn't get to decide. That's my point. The judges get to decide and they DID decide. That ought to be the end of it.

[Selkie]

Yes, yes, you won. We know. We don't care. You deserved to win and I'm not trying to trivialize that. I can't help but to believe that your view holds bias, yet you want me to quiet up because my view holds bias too. You have a lot of stake in the judges having chosen the pieces that merited it. I have a lot of stake in the judges having chosen the pieces that merited it.

And we disagree. You want me to shut up and just let the winners and judges have their peace, while I would like nothing more than to continue pointing out how sloppy the selection was.

Why is this so important?

[Selkie]

Certainly if this were a one time event then it would be easy to let go, but this is a game. A game with exclusive items that players are encouraged to work hard to obtain. If players down turn five by bugging it, might I, too, question the legitimacy of that? If judges value entries with poor composition and lighting over seemingly superior competitors, might I question the legitimacy of that? In both cases I would be disappointed that the "loot" was not obtained based on more rigorous standards.

You said, "Dressing up as Impressio was uncreative. It's a Coatee set and a pumpkin head--bam Impressio...boring." when I brought up seasonal costumes. And although that argument is valid in some regard, subjectivity aside, it is strange nonetheless that no seasonal costumes won.

[Selkie]

This didn't deserve to win?


This didn't deserve to win?


Okay pumpkin men aside, what about this one?


Oh, I suppose this one is too easy too, eh? I myself did this NPC as did this person and a few others. But I suppose we weren't creative or unique enough. And the costume was too easy, ya? Having a level 50 weaver, the two month sub bathing suit, and tracking down the appropriate / closest gear and selecting the best dyes.

[Selkie]

An honorable mention for this charming fellow as well:

[Sephirah]

I understand you're unhappy with the results Selkie, but I really think you should just let this go. You're only adding to your own frustration at this point. There were many great entries, I'm sure it couldn't have been easy to only pick 100 when you have 7 times that many. And before you go saying I'm biased as well because I won, let me just say that if I hadn't, I would not be trying to flame the development staff for making what is apparently such an egregious mistake.

The only things the posts like yours and other people upset about this is doing is increasing the likely hood that events like this will never happen again.

Congrats again to the winners, and to everyone else I did really enjoy seeing all the submissions, there are some really amazing ones.