Doppelganger Screenshot Contest (NA) - Discussion Thread

[Punainen]

The Ahriman Necklace is the rarest item in the game. You might not care about that kind of thing but many do.

Is it? So what? It's probably just a bragging rights piece that most people will never actually wear except when they wanna show off. And in all likelihood they'll give it out at another contest and another and another like they did with that Scarf.

[Selkie]

-stuff and things-

In other words, "I don't find these things valuable enough to pitch a fit over therefore you're wrong in doing so."

You wouldn't react the way we did. Fair enough. You thought it was judged fairly. Fair enough. We have differing opinions. So far yours is a minority voice here. I'm not attacking you for your opinions, but I'm not going to be silent on issues I care about. Just because you don't care or wouldn't react how I do, doesn't mean that I am somehow lesser for my own actions. A criteria was set for the contest and I felt that it was not followed. You felt that it was. By your own logic, you do not get to decide what is and isn't creative either.

[Punainen]

In other words, "I don't find these things valuable enough to pitch a fit over therefore you're wrong in doing so."

You wouldn't react the way we did. Fair enough. You thought it was judged fairly. Fair enough. We have differing opinions. So far yours is a minority voice here. I'm not attacking you for your opinions, but I'm not going to be silent on issues I care about. Just because you don't care or wouldn't react how I do, doesn't mean that I am somehow lesser for my own actions. A criteria was set for the contest and I felt that it was not followed. You felt that it was. By your own logic, you do not get to decide what is and isn't creative either.

Nope, I don't get to decide and I didn't get to decide. That's my point. The judges get to decide and they DID decide. That ought to be the end of it.

[Selkie]

Yes, yes, you won. We know. We don't care. You deserved to win and I'm not trying to trivialize that. I can't help but to believe that your view holds bias, yet you want me to quiet up because my view holds bias too. You have a lot of stake in the judges having chosen the pieces that merited it. I have a lot of stake in the judges having chosen the pieces that merited it.

And we disagree. You want me to shut up and just let the winners and judges have their peace, while I would like nothing more than to continue pointing out how sloppy the selection was.

Why is this so important?

[Selkie]

Certainly if this were a one time event then it would be easy to let go, but this is a game. A game with exclusive items that players are encouraged to work hard to obtain. If players down turn five by bugging it, might I, too, question the legitimacy of that? If judges value entries with poor composition and lighting over seemingly superior competitors, might I question the legitimacy of that? In both cases I would be disappointed that the "loot" was not obtained based on more rigorous standards.

You said, "Dressing up as Impressio was uncreative. It's a Coatee set and a pumpkin head--bam Impressio...boring." when I brought up seasonal costumes. And although that argument is valid in some regard, subjectivity aside, it is strange nonetheless that no seasonal costumes won.

[Selkie]

This didn't deserve to win?


This didn't deserve to win?


Okay pumpkin men aside, what about this one?


Oh, I suppose this one is too easy too, eh? I myself did this NPC as did this person and a few others. But I suppose we weren't creative or unique enough. And the costume was too easy, ya? Having a level 50 weaver, the two month sub bathing suit, and tracking down the appropriate / closest gear and selecting the best dyes.

[Selkie]

An honorable mention for this charming fellow as well:

[Syrehn]

Selkie... I agree with every point you make in your posts.

The more I read up on this the more annoyed I get, what with the double entry posting winners (not their fault), lack of perceived creativity/quality, etc; not impressed with SE's apparent disregard for their own posted requirements for submitted entries.

[AncientCetra]

CONGRATS TO ALL WHO WON!!! Though I am disappointed by how many unsportsman and upset posts I am seeing. I hope everyone eventually gets over the fact it was just a fun thing that SE offered to it's players and those who were not chosen move on. However I do want to point out one of the first things stated in the contest.

This contest is all about composition! Be sure to match your equipment colors/shapes and utilize your surroundings to help accent your screenshot. Feel free to find and use props to help! The submissions that rise above the rest will be declared winners!

I saw many that did not have the above credentials. This is what they were most looking for and I am sure it was difficult for those who were judging to make a choice. Respect it as you would want someone to respect your own choices of what you thought looked good. Hopefully the negative posts do not influence SE to no longer have any more contests.

[Selkie]

Seasonal aside, this couldn't have been in to add some variety between the sylphs?

Nope. Moar sylphs pl0x.

(Additionally, I really feel for this guy. The one sylph that didn't win. ;_;7)

But y'know that's just, like, my opinion man. And I'm salty. ;3