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Thread: Arrogant WHMS

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeeMaul View Post
    They cant mitigate damage
    Stoneskin
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    they cant increase their healing potential on the fly
    Divine Seal

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    and when things get mobile they have a hard time healing.
    Between Stoneskin, Regen, Medica II, Eye for an Eye, and Virus I can move around quite freely without fear of the tank getting smashed while I am busy dealing with mechanics

    Quote Originally Posted by BeeMaul View Post
    Now how did you feel reading that?
    That you are quite misinformed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyomih View Post
    So people who don't know what they are talking about got you mad so you came here and made a post with an insulting title against WHMs?
    Not really the best way of going about this.

    It sounds more like you are not sure about your own class and need some reassurance..
    Anyway, each of the healing classes are powerful and each have their own place. Some fights are designed more for one or another class but are still doable by both, they might just be a bit harder.
    lot of assumptions there eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeva View Post
    LOL Seriously?

    You let players online get to you? Even if you are the worst player ever...~!

    ....don't let people's words hurt your feelings.

    Anyway, everyone has different opinions and most, like OP's post, are wrong. I love my white mage and am looking forward to getting my fairies~! Should hit 30 today
    I'm planning to level every single Job but I'm kind of lazy...


    So yea. Haters gone hate, do yo thang~!
    my post is "Wrong"? did you even read it? Guess i was wrong whms do blow according to this person. seen at least two posts where people countered points in my first paragraph meaning they didnt read the whole thing. reading comprehension at a whole new level, im very impressed.
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    Last edited by BeeMaul; 11-06-2013 at 04:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeeMaul View Post
    WHM's blow. They are just a bad class. They cant mitigate damage, they cant increase their healing potential on the fly and when things get mobile they have a hard time healing. In almost every situation a SCH is better. Most whms dont know how to use their skills.

    Now how did you feel reading that? Pretty angry? Thats what sch's feel like every time a whm or any other player makes offhand comments about how inferior they think scholars are. Learn to appreciate what the other class can do that you cant. Does that scholar really suck? Well its not the job its the player. /rant


    *The first paragraph does not reflect my actual views of the whm job and for the record i love whm's, just tired of hearing stuff like "Get a real healer, like a whm".
    Stoneskin Armor ... nuff said.

    PS - Stop Trollin
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    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    The only problem with SCH is that double SCH is just, the worst thing imaginable.

    Euuuugh.

    AoE heals are not their strong point.
    The other problem with SCH is that the final boss of Brayflox is really really awful with one and it is unfortunately the first real dungeon you are likely able to use it. Do-able, but it is rough as hell.
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    OP, how do I feel? I feel that you are ignorant. How does that make you feel?

    The only WHMs that piss me off are the ones that I have to put up with while levelling my alt classes. They are the worst because they are arrogant (not the way you use it, I mean, truly arrogant) they DPS, cast stoneskin and Cure 2 instead of keeping the tank topped up. And then they run OOM during trash encounters and force the party to wait for them just because they are stupid enough to DPS when they have such a small MP pool.
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    Oh well, WHM heals a lot, SCH heals a less but buffs and dps well, and has a fairy that helps him.
    Never heard of "everyone has his own skills"?
    If someone says that SCH are inferior, well, he/she really, really, REALLY a lot ignorant and they should try before they talk.
    Most of people comparing class and saying "which is better" are ignorant dps that just know how to spam attacks and don't bother too much in looking at the effort everyone - EVERYONE - else puts in doing his job.
    Learn this, you might become a good player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeeMaul View Post


    *The first paragraph does not reflect my actual views of the whm job and for the record i love whm's, just tired of hearing stuff like "Get a real healer, like a whm".
    Only people who never played a SCH would say that
    I'm a WHM ( Main ) and a SCH As a secondary class
    I like both ! Both of them make a really good combo WHM Burst healing & SCH Shields and Fairy buffs makes the best healing experience despite the fact that a SCH doesn't need that much of mana compared to WHM.
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    SCH is not inferior to a WHM in a WHM/SCH setup.
    SCH is not inferior to WHM in a 4man setting.

    The reason why people think SCH sucks is because:
    1)Alot of people are bad at managing Eos/Selene
    2)Scholars have more options than WHMs, and new players don't know which choices to make.
    3)SCH/SCH is the worst healing combination. (This doesnt actually have to do with the Scholars power though. If WHM regen/medica2 didn't stack, SCH/SCH would be much more common)

    Scholars have way more mana regen than WHMs, they can spot heal better, they can offer more utility than WHMs, and they pull less aggro. Eos/Selene also count as an extra person on Twintania fireballs, which is a nice little perk as well. For sure, SCH has its strong points.

    I can tell you as someone who exclusively does turn 1-5 coil with SCH/WHM, and did titan back when it was challenging exclusively with sch/whm, that WHM/WHM is far inferior to SCH/WHM. Whenever I get in a position where I have to run WHM/WHM, the run is always far harder on me than if I were to run SCH/WHM.
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    Last edited by Slark; 11-06-2013 at 02:02 PM.

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    The main problem with the whole SCH issue is that ignorant or not so educated people don't see a direct impact from mitigation skills (SCH) than they see with direct heals (WHM). It's far less obvious how strong SCH is to someone who only looks at health bars and how fast they fill up again. They panic when a not full health bar doesn't get filled up immediately and totally ignore all other skills that are crucial in a fight.

    Mitigation will and always has been a very important tool in any game. It's just less obvious if you only look at reactive skills and totally ignore the proactive ones.
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