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    Kyomi Dreamweaver
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    The main problem with the whole SCH issue is that ignorant or not so educated people don't see a direct impact from mitigation skills (SCH) than they see with direct heals (WHM). It's far less obvious how strong SCH is to someone who only looks at health bars and how fast they fill up again. They panic when a not full health bar doesn't get filled up immediately and totally ignore all other skills that are crucial in a fight.

    Mitigation will and always has been a very important tool in any game. It's just less obvious if you only look at reactive skills and totally ignore the proactive ones.
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    Plain and simple, it comes down to sheer player skill.

    I've sat on these forums and watched all the ranting and crying about SCH being "under powered" or "not impressive". People spend too much time looking at numbers that pop up instead of reading tooltips.

    Honestly, ignorance is the reason why people cry about anything in this game.

    Both classes are in my mind working as intended and all these puppy dog tears need to stop. Soak them up and re-roll to DPS if you can't learn to Google or search these forums for a guide to help you better understand what you need to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeeMaul View Post
    *The first paragraph does not reflect my actual views of the whm job and for the record i love whm's, just tired of hearing stuff like "Get a real healer, like a whm".
    I am a WHM, and I always prefer to have SCH as my healing partner. And also, I always thought that SCH is artful in their healing. Honestly and frankly? I don't think that most SCH gets the "art" of healing in their own class and style. Healing in WHM is boring, SCH is a lot more interesting I would say
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeeMaul View Post
    WHM's blow. They are just a bad class. They cant mitigate damage, they cant increase their healing potential on the fly and when things get mobile they have a hard time healing. In is betalmost every situation a SCH ter. Most whms dont know how to use their skills.

    Now how did you feel reading that? Pretty angry? Thats what sch's feel like every time a whm or any other player makes offhand comments about how inferior they think scholars are. Learn to appreciate what the other class can do that you cant. Does that scholar really suck? Well its not the job its the player. /rant


    *The first paragraph does not reflect my actual views of the whm job and for the record i love whm's, just tired of hearing stuff like "Get a real healer, like a whm".

    Stoneskin, Divine Seal, Swiftcast Medica II, 9 min or less WP....

    Do you even play this game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexine View Post
    Stoneskin, Divine Seal, Swiftcast Medica II, 9 min or less WP....

    Do you even play this game?
    read the asterisk good friend...

    in other news, when my group was setting up for coil, since I only had WHM and the other healer had both he asked whether I preferred SCH or WHM as a partner so I said SCH (it also happens to be his main and I know he's really good with it) later we found out he couldn't have gone as WHM anyways see as he didn't have relic yet :3
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    The reading comprehension levels in this thread are not even believable. Has to be below high school level. And i bet some of those people are allowed to vote.
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    I personally love having a SCH with me in 8 mans or in 4 mans healing if im tanking or dps.... Yes WHM is more a pure heal healer, but it gets crazy when in some fights you have to move and adjust to not get killed... SCH is way better for that, your pet is OP, the shields, buffs and absorbs that a SCH puts out is amazing... I have seen SCH solo heal Titan(WHM kept dying) and Garuda... Anyone who says SCH is not a great healer is either dumb or maybe has just had bad luck with bad SCH's...
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    Quote Originally Posted by magicninja999 View Post
    I personally love having a SCH with me in 8 mans or in 4 mans healing if im tanking or dps.... Yes WHM is more a pure heal healer, but it gets crazy when in some fights you have to move and adjust to not get killed... SCH is way better for that, your pet is OP, the shields, buffs and absorbs that a SCH puts out is amazing..(cut because SE hates long posts)
    WHM can solo heal Titan as well. It all boils down to if the healer can stay out of the fire or not. SCH have shields and regens with their heals but their heals aren't as hard hitting either. They get the benefit of more aoe heals with the disadvantage of less healing potency. WHM gets more direct healing potential with higher healing potency but less aoe and no shields on heals. SCH is the party healer and WHM is the tank healer and burst healer. Each have their roles and both do them well. There is a reason that coil groups want one of each in every run they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythian View Post
    WHM can solo heal Titan as well. It all boils down to if the healer can stay out of the fire or not. SCH have shields and regens with their heals but their heals aren't as hard hitting either. They get the benefit of more aoe heals with the disadvantage of less healing potency. WHM gets more direct healing potential with higher healing potency but less aoe and no shields on heals. SCH is the party healer and WHM is the tank healer and burst healer. Each have their roles and both do them well. There is a reason that coil groups want one of each in every run they do.
    What? Last I checked, WHM destroys SCH at AoE healing. Nothing compares to Medica II.

    I only have a gripe with people who think SCH is hard to play, or harder to play then WHM. My friend let me try his SCH a few times. It's idiot proof, and most shortfalls that a normal healing roll would need to endure are thrown out the window. It's a far easier healing class to play. The class does have it's difficulties, but they aren't anywhere near watching hate or MP (or choosing between the two) on a WHM in a hectic situation in my opinion. I won't play a SCH for that reason though, it's just way too easy.
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    Last edited by Arale; 11-10-2013 at 07:03 PM.

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    i'm a sch healer and often when i have a whm partner i feel like i'm solo healing. is there a difference in the whm healng dynamic that cause this?
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