Whats with the zerg / speed run mentality?

[Aldora]

You don't need Darklight to do Ifrit and Garuda.

... you don't even have to farm Garuda if you've got your Ifrit weapon.

Ow, you're absolutely right. I am posting with my smartphone (which is quite a hassle, but I don't carry token around 24/7 (^_^ ) ). That particular fragment was missing parentheses. This will make more sense:
"farm AK gear (and gather tomes for Darklight) for primal weapon farming"

Darklight is not needed for both Ifrit or Garuda, but it help with Titan and you need to beat Titan at least once in order to get your Relic weapon. Just to be clear on this. The gear progression I mentioned earlier was meant as "guideline", not a requirement.

[Yagrush]

oh... what's wrong? pre-made parties are for people who prepared themselves enough, they're forming their own parties so they have all the right to set the standard.

Duty Finder is for people who want to learn about it, new to it, doing it for storyline, or searching for gear upgrades.

I don't have a problem with that logic. The reason I said what I said is because of that kind of attitude that just stinks up a community. You can easily convey the same idea without being a jerk about it. Other than that, I agree, if people are making a premade and want to speed-run more power to them.

Though, it's kind of the parties fault that they didn't realize the tank was undergeared for a speed-run before the run actually started.

[xnonamex]

Well i rly don't care about the gear that a player has. I have had great tanks with job gear in AK and i have had the worse relic tanks possible. Nowdays so many bad players have relic its ridiculous. First i see how a player plays, then judge. Or full DL ppl - after all the fate grinding where u spam 1-2 skills ppl rly don't know how to play their chars.

Now all the massive gear requirements are crazy. just takes the fun out of the game. now running AK you have 0 risk. i do understand that it is a farming dung, but you can still do it in a civilized and fun way.

I think the best par was the other day when i saw an ifrit party looking for near full DL ppl... like what?! i was doing it in my job gear and dung jewelry.

[Constance]

oh... what's wrong? pre-made parties are for people who prepared themselves enough, they're forming their own parties so they have all the right to set the standard.

Duty Finder is for people who want to learn about it, new to it, doing it for storyline, or searching for gear upgrades.

The instant a premade has a pug, it's no longer a premade.


As an example : two dps friends, grouping together, is not a premade. It's 2 morons looking for a daycare center.

[Dreamer]

There were no "speed runs" in wow... :/

That's because post-WotLK, pretty much everything is a speed run.

On topic though...it was their own fault. If you plan to do a speed run, you should be advertising them as such.

[Lilysparkle]

I am a relic tank, but I personally prefer to go into DF to do runs. Chances are I'll meet some new or gearing 50s that I can take my time with. I have all week to cap out on mythology, and if I do that in a single day then there isn't much else to do for the rest of the week.

omg, you have far too much sense to be posting on these forums!

[Hetzing]

I guess this is part of the beauty of being a tank.

I'm not quite there at 50 yet but right now I'm imagining it kinda like this:

DPS: Oh great... low hp tank noob, plz just leave
Me: You're a mere DPS so whaeva ya know whaddaiymean.
Me: I got instant queue time and I'm gonna do this dungeon a lot so don't be hatin'
Me: As the wise philosophers of Bodybuilding.com would say: u mirin' brah?


Well, at least that's how I want to handle the filthy DPS peasants but I haven't quite figured out what to say if it's a healer.

Oh, look, another tank with a superiority complex. I'm sure you're going to be winning over all the e-cat ladies.
Being a desirable role does not give you a free pass on being a hyperbad.

[Amyas]

Erm CM till u got a few darklight before Ak or Wp. That is what I did.

Why would you need ilvl 70 gear for an ilvl 55 and 60 dungeon?
Or, you know, you could start in WP, get WP gear, and move up to AK like how it was meant to be. I'm in three pieces of af2, just about full DL accessories and I never farmed CM one single time for tomes.

[Maelwys]

Well, at least that's how I want to handle the filthy DPS peasants but I haven't quite figured out what to say if it's a healer.

With that attitude, my money's on "Rez plz?"

I am a relic tank, but I personally prefer to go into DF to do runs. Chances are I'll meet some new or gearing 50s that I can take my time with. I have all week to cap out on mythology, and if I do that in a single day then there isn't much else to do for the rest of the week.

THIS.

[Tupsi]

It was significantly worse..

Hmm..no it was far from significantly worse - far from it. In XI the only "general" elitism was in regards to people not doing what's expected em, i.e "Haste Set", "TP set", "WS set", "Nuke Set", "HMP Set", "Cure Set" and so on and the people who refused to have sets were the ones that ended up stating FFXI has a "horrible community". Here, it's almost no choice but to conform or never get to do anything as the OP is basically getting at.

In XI, people were smart enough to realize you won't immediately have everything after you hit max level (75 for argument sake), because it will take time to get geared and to get your merits and so on so forth - People realized that. In XIV though, a lot of people seem to feel you should have a relic+1. full DL or Myth gear and capable of speed running everything instantly at 50.

It's simply not possible and if people think so that means this game is pulling in no new people and it's only the same group of people playing You can say "don't join premade", yet we all know people are trolling DF and the "rejects" are all that's left because they can't join groups on their servers just because they're new.