Whats with the zerg / speed run mentality?

[Pinworms]

In my experience speed runs take just as long as regular ones because the tank runs off and dies, can't hold Aggro, or the healer can't keep the tank alive through the damage. These are people in the so called +1's. I do not even bother looking for them, asking for them, or actively seek them out.

I'd rather have a smooth run, get lots of Gil, and have fun over rushing through content, wiping, losing Gil due to skipped monsters, and taking the same amount of time.

Leave the SR crap to the static 4 man groups that know exactly what their going to be doing each time and don't pug those IMO. Just because they have gear does not mean their not idiots.

[AlternativeOne]

This is the result of all the bitching about speed runs before they made all the changes. If the dungeons where never messed with to begin with you wouldn't be having this issue so much. AK trash mobs have some funky def and take longer to kill. Not running that dungeon with IL55 gear no more cause it takes to long. WP use to be abandoned so you only got newbs not noobs in it. It was fun. If people could still sac pull trash in ak a couple under gear newbs could get carried and collect tomes fast. You could do WP in your AF. Not now since mytho tomes drop there. If people wouldn't have complained about wanting to watching cut scenes in CM you could be in full DL by now. Nope.... Now CM is abandoned and the newb dungeon WP is the best place to farm cause AK has crap trash mobs. SO now your only choice is to DF till you get some gear and then try and catch up.
Thought you could kill the speed run but all ya did was make entry level requirements tougher on yourselves. The more they screw up thing to force one playstyle the less chance you'll have to participate cause the speed runners are gonna figure out something new and it will get popular and you'll be left out again.
Personally I think requiring DL and a relic for any content pre coil is just dumb. DL for titan yes cause you need that shit. Its A level 70 fight. All content before is level 60 garuda/AK or 55 ifrit/WP. Think about what ya bitching about in the future cause you'll probably end up in a situation like this every time content gets adjusted to please the cry babies. Your stuck with DF till you make some friends.

Not directed at only the OP but anyone who has this problem. Got to remember that 50 content is heavily populated with people who have more than one 50 class and gearing them in DL and getting relics is a chore after the first couple times. All of you that whined about how people rush through to end game are now feeling left out cause they wanted to enjoy the environment or what ever the hell they was doing. Now that your at 50 you see the wide gap in gear requirements and feel like your being shunned. Just need to lay back and enjoy the environment more cause you aint catching up to the relic speed runners anytime soon. Dont get in a rush for gear now that your 50. Should have joined that party With your main class a month ago.

[Steeled]

It's because, at the moment, everything in this game is a repetitive grind, and you just want it over as soon as possible.

[Orophin]

I think you'll find less of this if you join via Duty Finder. I purposely avoid speed run groups as I like to run at a more casual pace. Saving 10 minutes off an AK run isn't the end of the world for me.

[Astarica]

There's nothing wrong with wanting to do stuff faster. Problem is most people ask for speed run can't even do it reliably themselves so you're better off avoiding them in the first place. Most of the time speed run really just means 'tank aggro a ton of mobs and die', and that'll likely take longer to finish than just killing one pack at a time. Sometimes your group flat out doesn't have enough AE firepower (maybe you've the wrong DPS classes) to kill the stuff in a reasonable time and yet people never seem to notice these things.

[Arriverderci]

Erm CM till u got a few darklight before Ak or Wp. That is what I did.

Meh, as a healer you don't need good gear for WP. My other friends weren't well geared and we did fine.
WP is an extremely easy dungeon. I personally hate speed-runs. I don't feel like trying to super heal with 30 mobs on a tank and stuff.
Then again, I don't care much for these DL/AF2 crap things.

AK is a different stress-induced story.

[Jonny_Tapas]

I see a whole lot of people saying what order to do things in.

Truth is all of it can be done in AF, there's no "hard" DPS check until Titan. I went straight from main story to AK and spent about 5 runs learning (read: derping hard) and then NP. Gear was never an issue. Am I faster now? Sure! But it's usually wipe causing mistakes that get you flamed, not lack of DPS.

Bottom line... until you are geared, practiced and know the run, don't take the SR shout. You have every right to be in there farming that dungeon but if you sign up to do it on someone elses terms.. .You begging for punishment.

Just take the time to learn among friends or with thick skin...

[Dire]

I am not a fan of speedruns because half the (PUG, whether premade or DF) groups can't manage them properly and would have taken less time to do it the normal way. So I don't bother. Instead I just do AK for the 150 myth I need to cap after I am done with Coil 1-4; it means I have to run it 4 times per week, really not that big of a deal. If I feel the need for variety I'll do Garuda HM; it's roughly 5 min, so 4 of those take less time than an AK run and net the same amount of myths.

[Gucci_Charms]

I always laugh when random SR players appear in DF and then die with assumption everyone knows what to do to make it a speed run lol.

[Nadrojj]

No because the game forced you to take your time so everyone did. You didn't play XI, that much is very apparent.

Games like WoW and XIV advocate people like this. Elitists, a plague.

Clearly you never got very far in FFXI. Each job had items they pretty much had to get in order to be invited, 57 thf and no Scorpion Harness, hah good luck getting a party. War without hauby? No thanks guy. Oh you're going to sub anything but /nin so you can't dual wield? Hah get out. Ranger with no sam sub? No thanks buddy.

The elitist mentality ran rampant in 11 just like it does any other game.