Whats with the zerg / speed run mentality?

[Jynxx]

my feelings on most shouts for speed runs:

[Seig345]

I completed my first run of AK successfully as a Whm with an iLvl 50 weapon, full af (not af +1 or af2, just regular old dusty af) accessories that ranged from 45 to 50, and 1 darklight neck piece. We wiped once on the first boss, but I learned the mechanics and we nailed it the second time with plenty of breathing room to spare. Demon wall? Same story. Wiped once, learned the mechanic, nailed it with room to spare. Final boss? Beat that one on the first attempt. 30-40 minute affair tops.

I don't remember everything my friends had, but it wasn't anywhere near full DL, they didn't have relic weapons, and I was far from a burden if the first two bosses only required a learning curve. I could see myself being a burden if we wiped and only won by barely scraping by, but once I'd learned their mechanics, we had hp and mp to spare at the end of each fight, and no raises necessary.

I'll concede to speed runs, but anyone saying a regular AK run can't be done without 2-3 or full darklight and relic weapons is either confusing regular runs with speed runs, or they rely on overgearing to make up for their ability (or lack there of) to play their role.

[AngelMoon]

OP... your gear is pretty awful, sorry.

[Terius]

Speed runs are great imo.

I'm forced to do WP/AK so many times a week to cap my Myth stones, so I want them to go as quickly as possible. The only shouts you hear now are, "DL/+1 Relic for WP/AK!!" anyway, poor new players.

[LiadansWhisper]

I'm pretty sure you don't know what a WP speed run entails, because yes it does constitute something more than "just never stop pulling unless I scream like a girl, mr. tank.".

You need a relic/+1 on a whm just so you can stay above the burst damage coming out. You'll probably have to pop your CDs every fight as well. Then on top of that, you want to be able to handle that so well that you can dance into cleric and holy and get the run done even faster.

Maybe I'm just silly, but when I'm already clearing those places in 17ish minutes, I don't see the point of a speedrun to shave, what, 2 mins off?

[Khronikos]

Ha, you gotta laugh hardcore at some of these neckbeards. I did Ifrit and AK with minimal gear and rarely get whined at in Duty Finder. So it works out fine in most instances. MMO attract the dirt in videogames because they simply attract people who make the game their life.

Beyond that this game is a joke of content at 50. There is simply very little to do. Not sure I can resub for this. I have a couple darklight items but tbh don't feel the need to grind dungeons all that much. Seems fun for one or two. And then I'm left going...... yeah, what now.

Generally, I slow a DL team up in AK but if they are good you hardly notice it unless you are a loser or I'm dying from a one hit twice or something.

[Welsper59]

Played since around 2006 until recently. How long have you played, good sir? If you DID play, you likely never did endgame of any kind.

Of every MMO out there, FFXI was the absolute worst when it came to elitism. WoW and FFXIV pale in comparison, but it's quite clear that you're just on the "lets H8 wOw" bandwagon. Neither of those games advocate elitists, whereas FFXI did.

... I don't think you realize your own bias if you say/believe that neither WoW nor FFXIV advocate elitists.