(Un)Official Arcanist/Summmoner Feedback Thread

[Imoye]

We need another mana CD. Don't really understand how BLMs can spam their spells indefinitely, while summoners have to watch their mana bar constantly. I'm not saying that we should have unlimited mana, but it's not really fair either that a DPS can actually go oom like this.

[Supersun]

We need another mana CD. Don't really understand how BLMs can spam their spells indefinitely, while summoners have to watch their mana bar constantly. I'm not saying that we should have unlimited mana, but it's not really fair either that a DPS can actually go oom like this.

Like how a DPS can go OOT?

There's a reason BLM has a cooldown time with blizzard.

[coffeerox]

The same as every other SMN, but Aetherflow can't be used on cooldown for Twintania due to burst requirements. Even with Aetherflow on cooldown, we still run OOM on longer encounters.

Okay so I've been playing around with it and I've come to the conclusion that it's the use of both Thunder and Shadowflare. Both are too mana intensive when used together however I did find that if you use one or the other, the mana is manageable. Shadowflare should be used in AOE situations obviously and Thunder for single target.

Another thing is that you don't use Energy Drain. Energy Drain is 150 potency, instant, and returns 50% of damage dealt as MP. This is an especially great spell for mana sustain because it scales with gear. The better your gear, the higher damage you do and thus, higher MP returned. You should be weaving Energy Drain alongside your Ruin II's after a full set of Fester (one stack goes to Fester, another stack goes to ED)

[Zholi]

Another thing is that you don't use Energy Drain. Energy Drain is 150 potency, instant, and returns 50% of damage dealt as MP. This is an especially great spell for mana sustain because it scales with gear. The better your gear, the higher damage you do and thus, higher MP returned.

The HP restore scales, the MP restore doesn't. But yes, I use it sometimes if I really have to, because it's better to sacrifice a fester to make sure you don't go oom.

[Kevee]

The HP restore scales, the MP restore doesn't. But yes, I use it sometimes if I really have to, because it's better to sacrifice a fester to make sure you don't go oom.

Neither the HP or MP restoration scales with gear, or CDs. Popping RS does nothing but boost the damage.

Edit: I was wrong. If you're reading this, it does scale with HP recovery.

[coffeerox]

The HP restore scales, the MP restore doesn't. But yes, I use it sometimes if I really have to, because it's better to sacrifice a fester to make sure you don't go oom.

oh snap I guess I read that wrong this whole time LMAO! Either way the concept still works

[coffeerox]

Neither the HP or MP restoration scales with gear, or CDs.

The keyword is Absorbs 50% of damage dealt. If my Energy Drain crits for 600 then I get 300HP returned however if your Energy Drain crits for 500 then it'll restore for 250.

[Kevee]

The keyword is Absorbs 50% of damage dealt. If my Energy Drain crits for 600 then I get 300HP returned however if your Energy Drain crits for 500 then it'll restore for 250.

No, you won't.

I've always, always, seen my ED restore ~266 HP and ~160 MP no matter my gear level, at 50. Doesn't matter if I crit, doesn't matter if I pop RS. Exact numbers are a little off, because I'm at work, but they're right around there.


Edit: I was wrong. If you're reading this, it does scale with HP recovery.

[coffeerox]

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3112/eqa9.png

306-50%=153
316-50%=158
303-50%=151.5
330-50%=165

exactly as shown in the combat log. Hold on lemme go get a crit and see what it says.

edit: lol got it on the second AE
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9581/3pab.png

455-50%=227.5

[Kevee]

snip

Well I'm wrong, and I even got the HP/MP values reversed.

ED restore ~266 HP and ~160 MP no matter my gear level

Would make sense with the values reversed, but I was still wrong on the HP-scaling part.

I never paid attention to it, because that isn't the important part of ED, but oh well. You got me.