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    LunaChild's Avatar
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    Belmont Blanc
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    Masamune
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    This thread is about WAR. If you don't know how to play it and want to.talk PLD please troll elsewhere
    if you mean me, sorry about my question look like I'm trolling. I really just want to know how Stoneskin work.
    My main job is Warrior so I'm not playing PLD much that's why I don't know myself how Stoneskin work with Shield Oath. If it prevent certain damage before calculated with Shield Oath, for me that mean Stoneskin is working better on WAR than PLD.

    well, I'm apologize again if it's look like I was trolling.
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    MBTL90's Avatar
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    Kamahl Stormblessed
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    Stoneskin is the same on paladins and warriors.
    Paladin
    Base 1000hp
    10% stoneskin = 100 hp on paladin
    get attacked for 200 damage
    paladin mitigates *.8, so take 160 damage
    stoneskin aborbs 100, take 60
    end hp = 940 hp
    need a 60 point heal to get to full
    Stoneskin reduced the incoming damage by 100/160, or 62.5%

    Warrior
    Base hp 1000hp, w/ defiance = 1250 hp
    10% stoneskin = 125 hp
    get attacked for 200 damage
    stoneskin aborbs 125, take 75
    end hp = 1175 hp
    need a 75 point heal to get to full
    Stoneskin reduced the incoming damage by 125/200, or 62.5%

    Stoneskin reduced the damage taken by the same percent for each class.

    This also shows the inferiority of wars. To top off the paladin, you need to heal for 60. An equivalent heal on a war would heal for 60*1.15 to account for wrath, which only gets you to 69 healed. This still wouldn't top off the war, as he is 75 health down.
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    Last edited by MBTL90; 11-02-2013 at 10:12 PM.

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    Taemek's Avatar
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    Taemek Frozenberg
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by MBTL90 View Post
    Stoneskin is the same on paladins and warriors.
    Paladin
    Base 1000hp
    10% stoneskin = 100 hp on paladin
    get attacked for 200 damage
    paladin mitigates *.8, so take 160 damage
    stoneskin aborbs 100, take 60
    end hp = 940 hp
    need a 60 point heal to get to full
    Stoneskin reduced the incoming damage by 100/160, or 62.5%

    Warrior
    Base hp 1000hp, w/ defiance = 1250 hp
    10% stoneskin = 125 hp
    get attacked for 200 damage
    stoneskin aborbs 125, take 75
    end hp = 1175 hp
    need a 75 point heal to get to full
    Stoneskin reduced the incoming damage by 125/200, or 62.5%

    Stoneskin reduced the damage taken by the same percent for each class.

    This also shows the inferiority of wars. To top off the paladin, you need to heal for 60. An equivalent heal on a war would heal for 60*1.15 to account for wrath, which only gets you to 69 healed. This still wouldn't top off the war, as he is 75 health down.
    The War is actually only 9 hp down, not 75.
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by LunaChild View Post
    if you mean me, sorry about my question look like I'm trolling. I really just want to know how Stoneskin work.
    My main job is Warrior so I'm not playing PLD much that's why I don't know myself how Stoneskin work with Shield Oath. If it prevent certain damage before calculated with Shield Oath, for me that mean Stoneskin is working better on WAR than PLD.

    well, I'm apologize again if it's look like I was trolling.
    I would also like to see some testing on this as it's something I have been wondering about.
    Since it's possible that the damage dealt can be in place before the reduction occurs on Paladin's Shield Oath, Shield Type heal spells i.e. Stoneskin can still be more effective on Warrior.

    6250 HP War - 1125 Stoneskin
    5000 HP PLD - 900 Stoneskin

    Incoming damage 2000

    WAR takes - 875 Damage
    PLD takes - 880 Damage

    that is of course if the damage that Stoneskin absorbs is calculated outside of Paladins Shield Oath buff (or any CD Buff for that matter), because the Paladin is not actually being hit.

    Which if that's true it also means that heals by a Scholar are more effective on a Warrior because the magick'd barrier is increased by 15% through Infuriated and would be unaffected by the Defensive buffs of a Paladin.
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 11-03-2013 at 02:49 AM.
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