Market Wards, enough is enough

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Actually those they do not have different animation teams they do have different people working on each animation. So still need to be worried over wasted resouces. Also fyi I watched a show on the discorver channel (on of their sister channels) that did talk about game design AND games do have dev diaries, AND I did watch the dev cd that came with the game 2 times

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Yeah fair enough mate, sorry I'm not trying to get into an argument really, especially with a com rep as they're doing their best.

I've just never really got it from the start.

AH's work in most MMOs. They just are... there, people use them, no fuss. However, this game has suffered from ALOT of negative PR, especially from the economy and lack of AH, so i'd love to hear exactly why they've gone down the market system route and continue to do so.

I don't see why we can't have both.

If it's cost, fine. Just tell us.

more games are going for more interactive stuff rather then menus.
Menues are dull. I rather play a game then dyck with a menu

[TheVedis]

I guess my post got lost (or maybe ignored ;-; ) in the shuffle, but the dev team is also looking at the inflation problem, and I'm betting that it's the same team.

So now the choice is : improve market wards and address inflation OR stop all that to start over with an auction house?

its pretty much that
the wards are there, the AH isnt at this point

itl take alot of resourdcs to implement an AH, while altering the wards will take very little(improving them)

with much more important things on their plate its obvious what the smart choice is

[kurokawa]

more games are going for more interactive stuff rather then menus.
Menues are dull. I rather play a game then dyck with a menu

Agree, but ebay is dull compared to walking around a bustling market. However, I still like to shop one ebay because I can't be arsed to go out sometimes and don't want to waste time.

It's about ease of purchasing, flexibility, fun for all.

[Shai]

These are the exact same things I was saying.

DAMN IT ALL.

Low priority on AH because it takes away from working on more important stuff.

Good thing I have a Dr appt to go to in 20 min. I'm ready to pull my hair out.

It's a conspiracy on this forum to make me feel like I"m crazy because I have a reading comprehension skill about a 2nd grade level and reason through problems with logic, rational and evidence as well as highly developed pattern analysis while others just make up crazy bs on the spot and pretend it's real.

I'm on to you guys now.

Edit:

Where are you guys hiding the real forums that isn't a social experiment?
I'd like to have some real discussions about the game with real people who think about things rationally and read at a same level of comprehension as me. Hook me up with a link. I'll be checking back after my Dr. Appt.

[Becken]

The market ward is ok if selling long term/high end gear and what nots, but trying to sell mats in the ward takes to long to set up, and never sells so i gave up and started selling them to npc. in ffxi i never used the bazzers much since i sell mats faster on the AH

[kurokawa]

its pretty much that
the wards are there, the AH isnt at this point

itl take alot of resourdcs to implement an AH, while altering the wards will take very little(improving them)

with much more important things on their plate its obvious what the smart choice is

Yeah that's exactly what I'm getting at.

They no doubt can't afford to implement two teams to work on the economy. It's easier and more cost effective to tweak the wards until the game starts to break even. Then they'll think about the AH or something more innovative when they're profitable.

They should just say that though. "Sorry guys, no AH now, we just don't have the resources to burn. Agree we could have both but we're working on partying and battles as they suck right now."

[Mack]

You do know what the MW was from right? players used to sit out afk in various zones. It got laggy and casual players didn't have time or could keep they pc or consules on 24/7 trying to sell stuff.

Honestly AH's are not as fast as you guys are thinking. It could take weeks to sell stuff from an AH, or it can take months for an item to be put on the AH. You guys need to take account the flaws with an AH system also. Not just think of them with rose colored glasses. The only fix would be to scrap both and just have npc sell everything. Then get rid of the crafting and gathering classes.
Market wards are an interactive AH and they take the same amount of time to use.

I expected no less of a half thought out response from you. To be honest with you I'm not going to sit here and explain why I think an AH would be better because its pointless, I don't care to convince anyone. However its always fun reading your responses Kilta, you never make much sense.

[kurokawa]

These are the exact same things I was saying.

DAMN IT ALL.

Low priority on AH because it takes away from working on more important stuff.

Good thing I have a Dr appt to go to in 20 min. I'm ready to pull my hair out.

It's a conspiracy on this forum to make me feel like I"m crazy because I have a reading comprehension skill about a 2nd grade level and reason through problems with logic, rational and evidence as well as highly developed pattern analysis while others just make up crazy bs on the spot and pretend it's real.

I'm on to you guys now.

Edit:

Where are you guys hiding the real forums that isn't a social experiment?
I'd like to have some real discussions about the game with real people who think about things rationally and read at a same level of comprehension as me. Hook me up with a link. I'll be checking back after my Dr. Appt.

HAHAH sorry mate!

I never read the full thread as it makes my eyes glaze over like a crack whore. Love to just jump in at the end instead.

God knows what the last 17 pages have been about. I'm guessing - no money for AH, we're keeping market wards. Battle is no.1 priority, go away.

[Shai]

Yeah that's exactly what I'm getting at.

They no doubt can't afford to implement two teams to work on the economy. It's easier and more cost effective to tweak the wards until the game starts to break even. Then they'll think about the AH or something more innovative when they're profitable.

They should just say that though. "Sorry guys, no AH now, we just don't have the resources to burn. Agree we could have both but we're working on partying and battles as they suck right now."

I agree they should simply say that.

Talking around it with mumbo jumbo about priority and considering risk is useless.