Warrior "buff" in 2.1: not what we are expecting?

[HiirNoivl]

"Thrill of Battle is totally the same as Hallowed Ground in my experience".

No its not...there is a huge difference in having the tank take no dmg, having the healers be able to focus on emergency cures on other members, or drop an emergency raise, than having 10k hp being eaten away in no time flat.

It's the same in my experience.

[Takiwaki]

It's the same in my experience.

If you say so..

I am glad SE doesn't share that point of view, and is buffing us.

[HiirNoivl]

They didn't say anything about buffing ToB... or lettings us Cross-class anything remotely resembling Hallowed Ground. In fact, they said nothing about upping WAR defense. Only it's survivability. They spoke of tweaks to Wrath and Inner Beast and moved on to Debuffs.

My expectation is that WAR will play exactly the same. Maybe ToB will double our HP instead of giving us just 20%. But yeah we're not getting Hallowed Ground.

What's certain is groups that rely on Hallowed Ground for wins, will continue to lose.

[Takiwaki]

They didn't say anything about buffing ToB... or lettings us Cross-class anything remotely resembling Hallowed Ground. In fact, they said nothing about upping WAR defense. Only it's survivability. They spoke of tweaks to Wrath and Inner Beast and moved on to Debuffs.

My expectation is that WAR will play exactly the same. Maybe ToB will double our HP instead of giving us just 20%. But yeah we're not getting Hallowed Ground.

What's certain is groups that rely on Hallowed Ground for wins, will continue to lose.

Never brought up the idea that ToB was being buffed, nor do we know exactly what they are changing, other than the mentioned details and this.

"There are several other aspects of the job that will be adjusted, but rest assured that warrior will become stronger come December."

Also no one is saying anyone relies on hallowed ground to win anything.. you are all over the place, why is that?

You have a strange point of view . I like war as much as you also, but I am also realistic.

[Vactus]

It's the same in my experience.

Please explain this.

[Lycelle]

Awesome, sounds like Warrior will stop being frowned upon. I do wonder though how many people are going to bandwagon over. >_>;

[Eardstapa]

Wait, Hiir says PLD is OP, but then claims Hallowed Ground and Thrill of Battle are practically the same? ... I have never laughed so hard in my life before, I think it's time to grab a drink and wait for this one to unfurl.

[HiirNoivl]

Please explain this.

Let's say I know a big hit is coming. I use Thrill of Battle. The hit comes, Thrill of Battle fades and it's like the hit never happened.

[Takiwaki]

Let's say I know a big hit is coming. I use Thrill of Battle. The hit comes, Thrill of Battle fades and it's like the hit never happened.

I can do the exact same thing with IB, but your explanation still does not explain how its the same as HG.

[Phreak]

I can do the exact same thing with IB, but your explanation still does not explain how its the same as HG.

Don't try to think about it too much, Hiir has been a plague on these tank threads since the beginning.