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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    It's the same in my experience.
    If you say so..

    I am glad SE doesn't share that point of view, and is buffing us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    It's the same in my experience.
    Please explain this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vactus View Post
    Please explain this.
    Let's say I know a big hit is coming. I use Thrill of Battle. The hit comes, Thrill of Battle fades and it's like the hit never happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    Let's say I know a big hit is coming. I use Thrill of Battle. The hit comes, Thrill of Battle fades and it's like the hit never happened.
    I can do the exact same thing with IB, but your explanation still does not explain how its the same as HG.
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    Last edited by Takiwaki; 10-31-2013 at 08:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    It's the same in my experience.
    You're...just...
    Wow.
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    They didn't say anything about buffing ToB... or lettings us Cross-class anything remotely resembling Hallowed Ground. In fact, they said nothing about upping WAR defense. Only it's survivability. They spoke of tweaks to Wrath and Inner Beast and moved on to Debuffs.

    My expectation is that WAR will play exactly the same. Maybe ToB will double our HP instead of giving us just 20%. But yeah we're not getting Hallowed Ground.

    What's certain is groups that rely on Hallowed Ground for wins, will continue to lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    They didn't say anything about buffing ToB... or lettings us Cross-class anything remotely resembling Hallowed Ground. In fact, they said nothing about upping WAR defense. Only it's survivability. They spoke of tweaks to Wrath and Inner Beast and moved on to Debuffs.

    My expectation is that WAR will play exactly the same. Maybe ToB will double our HP instead of giving us just 20%. But yeah we're not getting Hallowed Ground.

    What's certain is groups that rely on Hallowed Ground for wins, will continue to lose.
    Never brought up the idea that ToB was being buffed, nor do we know exactly what they are changing, other than the mentioned details and this.

    "There are several other aspects of the job that will be adjusted, but rest assured that warrior will become stronger come December."

    Also no one is saying anyone relies on hallowed ground to win anything.. you are all over the place, why is that?

    You have a strange point of view . I like war as much as you also, but I am also realistic.
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    Awesome, sounds like Warrior will stop being frowned upon. I do wonder though how many people are going to bandwagon over. >_>;
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    Wait, Hiir says PLD is OP, but then claims Hallowed Ground and Thrill of Battle are practically the same? ... I have never laughed so hard in my life before, I think it's time to grab a drink and wait for this one to unfurl.
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    ToB is about 1500HP for me. 7600 to almost 9200. HG is immunity for 10sec. That's a LOT more than 1500ish HP. Mountain Buster alone (which can be HG'd) is avg 3-5k depending on gear and cooldowns.
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    Last edited by Vactus; 10-31-2013 at 08:48 AM. Reason: derp HG not HW.

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