Page 2 of 6 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 ... LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 60
  1. #11
    Player
    saber_alter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    1,811
    Character
    Lyrre Myste
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    i don't bother with marking targets. its not a great idea, but most of the people i run with now are relic black mages/bards that spam AOE until something dies.

    pretty pointless to target what you want to kill first when your killing all targets at once.

    another step to being a bad tank: you eat AOEs. all of them.
    (0)

  2. #12
    Player
    Kitru's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    1,334
    Character
    Kitru Kitera
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by saber_alter View Post
    another step to being a bad tank: you eat AOEs. all of them.
    I'll add a 14th: eating avoidable casts. In AK, the first boss regularly casts Void Thunder that can be dodged by just running behind the boss during the ability's 3 second cast, and I've seen *so* many PLD tanks just eat it because "the healer will take care of it" (it's the only major source of tank damage in the entire fight; if you avoid that and interrupt Mind Melt, like the tank *should* be since it's on a 30 sec CD just like Brutal Swing, the healer can DPS pretty much the *entire* fight). The blob boss in WP is the same: it casts Fire, which just so happens to be 90% of the damage the tank will take, and it can be completely avoided by just running behind the boss.

    As an addendum to this, I've met *so* many PLDs that think that they're supposed to stun these very same casts rather than just avoid them by running for half of a second and then proceed to just eat the damage if they're GCD locked and can't stun. There's no reason to stun a cast that is single target that you can just run behind the boss to avoid, with no issue, especially since, as soon as the cast finishes, while the effect is animating, you can run back to where you were and the boss won't have moved at all so even the mDPS can't complain at you. Thankfully, most of the WARs I end up dealing with have learned the secret of avoiding casts rather than thinking that everything is supposed to be interrupted, largely because they actually have to dodge said casts to avoid them rather than having a stun on standby at all times.
    (9)

  3. #13
    Player
    Merlee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    16
    Character
    Merle Murasaki
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Wow Kitru, I have done around 100 runs of AK in the DF as a healer. I have seen 1 tank to stun both abilities (1. AK) and none to run behind the boss.

    Really good information, thanks.
    (0)

  4. #14
    Player
    Yamitri's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    50
    Character
    Zaizhir Jyn
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    snip
    Didnt know that, i just stunned both and felt i should be done with it.

  5. #15
    Player
    TeddyXIV's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Posts
    70
    Character
    Teddy Ursa
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    #15 Using flash before combat. /facepalm
    (0)

  6. #16
    Player
    kro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    122
    Character
    Rachel Alucard
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    A good PLD stands still so the melees can output their full damage.
    (2)

  7. #17
    Player
    Garnatian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    534
    Character
    Gaust Euler
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    Following up Provoke with Halone really isn't a good idea. It's better to use Savage first so you can use Halone straight after, otherwise you simply generate less burst threat.
    (0)
    Last edited by Garnatian; 10-30-2013 at 05:22 PM.

  8. #18
    Player
    Diswin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    3
    Character
    Lalari Evilburnt
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    [...]I've met *so* many PLDs that think that they're supposed to stun these very same casts rather than just avoid them by running for half of a second and then [...]
    There is no such thing like "half of a second" in FFXIV. You never know what server think about toon's position. You never know what other players see on their screens. You even not sure in what you see on your own screen. You *love* walls of text? Check one about latency and positioning issues.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    ...the healer can DPS pretty much the *entire* fight [...]
    Want to DPS the *entire* fight? There are a plenty of solutions. E.g. switch tool in main hand and re-queue. Simple, right?
    (2)

  9. #19
    Player
    Grailer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    411
    Character
    Silver Healer
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    I got PLD to 50 Monday and started doing AK cause I had almost all Hopelite gear and I marked mobs 1-3 and the DPS still would do there own thing its BS so I stopped wasting time and added marking1 to Shield Lob.

    Also people who have Relic+1 should know better.
    They don't because they spam fates for 50 lvls , most don't even know what threat is . They think its the tanks fault they got agro .

    Maybe one day they roll a tank and go ahhh now I get it .
    (0)

  10. #20
    Player
    Grailer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    411
    Character
    Silver Healer
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by saber_alter View Post
    i don't bother with marking targets. its not a great idea, but most of the people i run with now are relic black mages/bards that spam AOE until something dies.

    pretty pointless to target what you want to kill first when your killing all targets at once.

    another step to being a bad tank: you eat AOEs. all of them.
    Target one , then if you lose agro at least you can blame DPS for not hitting marked target hehe
    (0)

Page 2 of 6 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 ... LastLast