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    Diswin's Avatar
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    Lalari Evilburnt
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    [...]I've met *so* many PLDs that think that they're supposed to stun these very same casts rather than just avoid them by running for half of a second and then [...]
    There is no such thing like "half of a second" in FFXIV. You never know what server think about toon's position. You never know what other players see on their screens. You even not sure in what you see on your own screen. You *love* walls of text? Check one about latency and positioning issues.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    ...the healer can DPS pretty much the *entire* fight [...]
    Want to DPS the *entire* fight? There are a plenty of solutions. E.g. switch tool in main hand and re-queue. Simple, right?
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    Lord_Zlatan's Avatar
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    Zlatan Tarrant
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    Famfrit
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Diswin View Post
    There is no such thing like "half of a second" in FFXIV. You never know what server think about toon's position. You never know what other players see on their screens. You even not sure in what you see on your own screen. You *love* walls of text? Check one about latency and positioning issues.
    Want to DPS the *entire* fight? There are a plenty of solutions. E.g. switch tool in main hand and re-queue. Simple, right?
    At no point in your incoherent rambling did you present anything that resembles a rational thought. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.
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    Kitru Kitera
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Diswin View Post
    There is no such thing like "half of a second" in FFXIV. You never know what server think about toon's position. You never know what other players see on their screens. You even not sure in what you see on your own screen. You *love* walls of text? Check one about latency and positioning issues.
    If your latency is so bad that you can't move 2y behind a boss before a 3 second cast finishes, I have to wonder if you ever managed to do Garuda without eating every single Slipstream; it's the exact same thing for Void Thunder and Fire: you run behind the caster during the cast and avoid the damage. Sure, you *can* just eat the damage and let the healers keep you alive through it, but anyone that does that is going to be considered an idiot. There are abilities that the developers pretty obviously intended for tanks to avoid by running out of LoS during the cast, and they're not just on a few bosses either; the only difference between the casts I'm talking about and the various breath abilities that tanks dodge for more obvious reasons is that the ST casts don't have a red zone telling you to GTFO; as far as their damage and the effect upon the rest of the fight goes, they're exactly the same though and, if you're eating them, you're eating damage that you *should* be avoiding.

    Want to DPS the *entire* fight? There are a plenty of solutions. E.g. switch tool in main hand and re-queue. Simple, right?
    I want to speed up the fight/dungeon. If a healer has empty GCDs, it behooves that healer to switch over to Cleric Stance and throw down with some damage. If you're just standing around, you're not really helping your group out and, if you're a tank and you're eating damage just to give your healer something to do, you're actually making it harder on your group which will slow things down. It's the tank's job to decrease the load on the healer and, if the tank can manage to make that load next to zero, *they should* because it allows the healer to contribute in other ways.

    When I'm healing, I'm always ready to throw down heals, but there are a lot of fights where the incoming damage *should* be low enough, given a lack of idiocy and undergearedness on the tank's part, that I should be able to speed things up by DoTing up the boss (or, if things are going well, just straight up DPSing the entire time and letting Eos handle all of it; I can actually do that on most of the bosses in AK/WP). I do the same thing on Titan for all phases except for p5 since healing load is low outside of everything except for Tumult and Mountain Buster (not to mention that Lustrate and Stoneskin are both fully effective while in Cleric Stance).

    Any healer that *only* heals is doing the absolute minimum to help out their group. A truly good healer is going to recognize those times when anything else they'd do would be overheal and start DPSing to speed things up. Getting pissed off and telling someone that knows enough about the content to know these situations automatically that they should just go reroll to DPS because you, as a tank, are either too lazy or too oblivious to avoid easily avoidable damage has nothing to do with the healer doing their job incorrectly or having rolled the wrong job. Honestly, if you think that you should be able to make every mistake imaginable that doesn't *explicitly* wipe the group and just have the healer clean up after you, *you* are the one that rolled the wrong job.
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