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    Noctis Umbra
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    Quote Originally Posted by neoreturn View Post
    Cynric, when you say MNK can solo silence ADS. You need give evidence. MNK can't solo silence ADS boss in T2. When you say MNK has decent aoe, you need know what you talking about. MNK can aoe but that's not 'decent'. MNK single target DPS isn't bad for a long run. Again MNK can't bring much value to team, MNK is the hardest dps job to find group. Do you see any group shout for lf a mnk? War definitely is worest overall at moment. Back to 2 month ago, some uber war argue their job design isn't bad and they tank such such in coil.
    MNKs may have trouble finding groups in PUGs because PUGs tend to be filled with dimwits who can't even clear content and wouldn't know good dps if it hit them in the face. Not all PUGs, don't get me wrong... but we are talking about pick ups here so you're gonna get a lot of bad with some good.

    Looking at PUGs is not a good way to judge a job's effectiveness. Already went through this. Too many people suck with MNK because they don't have enough execution to maintain their GL3 stacks, dots, buffs, etc. However, effective endgame companies will almost entirely acknowledge the ability of MNK as a job.

    You can, in fact, solo interrupt ADS with it. It is a very ineffective use of MNK, but quite possible because Arm of the Destroyer, MNK's Silence skill, is on GCD and furthermore it is an Opo-Opo stance skill and therefore always available every ~2s (under GL3 ). Some companies actually ran with that method on ADS first before switching to BRDs/PLDs.

    MNK has decent AoE. Its not great, but don't even try to underestimate Rockbreaker. You hit 2 targets with Rockbreaker and your total damage is already greater than what Snap Punch would have done on a single target. Furthermore Rockbreaker hits many targets in a conal AoE situation. Have you run Coil Turn 4 on MNK? I have. I used Rockbreaker. MNK has decent AoE.

    A good MNK will bring top DPS to a team. They will also bring Mantra. You point a good MNK player at a target, and you can expect it to die incredibly fast.

    Why don't people shout for MNKs? Because that is a very quick way to have a shitty MNK join your party. There are a lot of bad MNK players, because they job isn't as easy to play as BRD, which is the most popular. People don't shout for BRDs because it's a better performing job. People shout for BRDs because it is the easiest and safest DPS job and they have a greater chance of getting someone with decent performance. Shouting for a random MNK means you can get someone with amazing DPS, but you can also get someone who just outright does horrible damage. I have done PUG runs of Prae on MNK with other MNKs in party and there have been times i parsed more than double the damage of another MNK.

    Do NOT make the mistake of confusing popularity for what is good and what is bad. If you're going to look at popularity, do NOT make the mistake of looking only at PUGs and shouts, and actually research what the top FCs are doing at endgame. BG just cleared Twintania a couple of days ago. They have a MNK in their party.
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    Last edited by NoctisUmbra; 10-29-2013 at 03:14 AM. Reason: I should proof-read before I post >_>