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  1. #21
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    Darkricko's Avatar
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    Bigg Bawsss
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    Hyperion
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sinaloa View Post



    Don´t panic - they are about to fix that.

    lol I just hope the fix isn't a 50% DD , 15% support and 35% garbage.
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  2. #22
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    Furon Rage
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    Odin
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Woodberry View Post
    Since you made the claim, why don't you share with us how bard is by far easier to play than lets say a BLM?
    Blm's lose a cast every time they have to move, lowering their dps exponentially tied to the amount they have to move, the longer the distance they have to sidestep the bigger the dps loss, add in that blm's have almost zero utility compared to bards 10% damage reduction on aoe, instant silence shot as well as song's while still having 100% uptime and it doesnt take rocket science to realise that there is a pretty big imbalance here.


    If 1 dps class can dps 100% of the time and other dps classes can only dps 60-75% of the time, it stands to reason that the 100% uptime dps class should have the lowest dps to keep balance, if that 100% uptime class also have the best utility of all the dps they need to have even lower dps or you will only get 1 dps class worth playing.
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  3. #23
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    Wood Berry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furon View Post
    Blm's lose a cast every time they have to move, lowering their dps exponentially tied to the amount they have to move, the longer the distance they have to sidestep the bigger the dps loss, add in that blm's have almost zero utility compared to bards 10% damage reduction on aoe, instant silence shot as well as song's while still having 100% uptime and it doesnt take rocket science to realise that there is a pretty big imbalance here.
    So basically BRD is far easier to play because they can fire while moving? Wouldn't it technically be easier to just have to worry about pushing directional keys during ground aoe instead of having to push directional keys and attacks?
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  4. #24
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    Gannz Galonval
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    Odin
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    All the letter from the developer said was bards did too much damage without really being effected from the fight. This does not necessarily mean that there will be a damage nerf... You may get a cast time or 2 added in which to me would make more sense.
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  5. #25
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    Jim Berry
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    You forget to take into account the BRDs utility in support. BRD is not a pure damage class like BLM, PUG, and DRG. Hence why they pull ahead in parsing.

    So no, BRD shouldn't match pure damage classes in raw numbers.

    I raid tier 2 in Rift also, maining as a pure Bard. So would like to see Bard pushed further towards support in FFXIV also.

    銃術士はそれよりあとに実装予定で二丁拳銃の仕組みまでは考えてるとか
    Musketeer is planned for after that and also thinking of duel gun

    So Musketeer will probably be the ranged non magic pure damage class. Not BRD.
    Thank you for this. I am a Support BRD, but with the dps checkers, I am told my damage sucks even though I am asked to keep Ballad up.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    Thank you for this. I am a Support BRD, but with the dps checkers, I am told my damage sucks even though I am asked to keep Ballad up.
    lol Hmm I am guessing if the people you are running with are asking for ballads to be kept up before 5-7 mins into you shouldn't be running with them. Even with our 2 bard set up we can do turn 4 till the last minute with out needing a ballad and never EVER need a ballad on titan or any primal fights anymore. So yea if I were you Jim I would ditch that crew. Because bards are not supports.
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  7. #27
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    Leonas Dias
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    I'd guess they'd make BRD's ability potencies very similiar to mnk.

    Where MNK has say, dragon kick from flank at 150 potency, anywhere else 100 potency.

    They'll probably change BRD to be something more in line with that, like... A potency drop when moving, not a big drop, but still a drop, on abilities when compared to standing still.
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  8. #28
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    Xal Shi'nax
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    ppl thinks bards op dps "lol"
    if u want dps try monk or blm
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xal View Post
    ppl thinks bards op dps "lol"
    if u want dps try monk or blm

    lol for real!!! But at lower tier content all you hear about is ohh bard is so OP but those people have no clue to end game. Bard is the lowest strait DD endgame but they are favored due to the ability to fight and move.
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  10. #30
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkricko View Post
    lol Hmm I am guessing if the people you are running with are asking for ballads to be kept up before 5-7 mins into you shouldn't be running with them. Even with our 2 bard set up we can do turn 4 till the last minute with out needing a ballad and never EVER need a ballad on titan or any primal fights anymore. So yea if I were you Jim I would ditch that crew. Because bards are not supports.
    Or theres no fights in game that really need the BRDs support abilities? That the support of a BRD makes or breaks the encounter?
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