bards fix "WALL OF TEXT"

[Woodberry]

The best approach is to put a 1 second cast on heavy shot. You would drop movement dps by 5% since you would have to use SS instead during movement. They should also bump the potency of HS to 170 to bring BRDs more in line with other dps during non movement.

[EasymodeX]

I'd recommend a 2s cast on Windbite and Venomous Bite rather than add something to HS.

A Bard should still be generally mobile -- but if they don't stop to cast for about ~5s every 20s, their DPS would drop. That sounds about right. Having to stand still and cast for 5/8ths of BRD attacks would just suck, and I like to bunny hop while I attack.

You could even bump the base cast on WB/VB to 2.5s and add 20 more direct damage potency to the two attacks.

[Darkricko]

lol Hmm Guessing non of you talking about adding cast time on heavy shot, windbite, venomous bite, or even strait shot really understand where the damage comes from with the bard. If you give heavy shot or any shot other then bloodletter a cast time you would make the last place dps be about as good as tank dps. The biggest this is you can't nerf the bards with out making them unplayable. Whatever they nerf/change they will need to buff something else or bards will become nothing. Which is why I suggested changing bloodletter from 150 potency to 250 potency then giving it a 5sec cast time and making it a instant cast when proc'd off a bite spell. While also changing it to a 25% chance to proc from the bite dots instead of 50%. Would effectively make bard scale way better then they do now and nerf the only problem they have. The only reason they are even doing this is because people doing ifrit/garuda/titan complained and cried so much about the bard.

[Darkricko]

When once you get to content that really mater a bard cannot out DD any DD on equal gear/skill level as they bard. Meh though it is what it is they will do what they already have planned and probably make bard unplayable for a few months then they will realize man we should not have done that!! GGWP BARD4LIFE!!!

[Nooblet]

I was never a fan of huge rng to determine dps, which is exactly what you're suggesting. Its already bad enough as it is.

[KogaDrake]

Just a quick comment, while one may choose to not use their support aspects of BRD, just because you choose to not use all aspects of your job does not mean when you choose not to you should match everyone else's DPS. The fact that at any time you have the great support of a BRD available to use is why their DPS should and has to be lower than others without the support. Top notch DPS and then in a seconds switch good DPS and great support is just too much for one class to have.

[Nooblet]

Where is this great support you speak of? They have very temporary, very minimal, very rarely necessary support. Most of which reduce dmg by 20% when using. You act like bard can out dps things while using their support.. they can not even come close, unless comparing to someone who is really really bad.

Blm has ae cc, which has its uses. Also basically unlimited mp.

Drg has debuffs much like brd has foe requim.

Mnk has ae silence with no cooldown just requires a form... very likely that some content later on that would make having this ideal. Also has mantra as a support heal.

Summoner has a rez, and not sure what else but sure there's more.

Basically every single dps has some support... so please explain why bards is so much more special... they're all just unique based on class. Bards is I believe the only one that significantly lowers dps while using.

The only argument that has any merit, is bards are easy(as are other classes) AND they are 100% mobile. Changing one or a little of both would be fair.. but nerfing their max dmg(already bottom of the pack) is not a good solution.

[magicninja999]

STOP YOUR WHINING!

All you people and your crying, boooooo hoooooo!!! Awww bards can dps and move, awww bards don't have cast times, bards are out dpsing me, waaaa waaaa waaaaa!!! shut up

1st, if you are a pure DD(MNK, DRG, BLM) and you are getting out dps'd by a BRD, then how do I put this.... oh ya, YOU SUCK AT YOUR JOB AND NEED TO READ UP ON IT, WATCH A UTUBE VIDEO OR REROLL OR UNINSTALL.. What ever you feel would help you and the people who you bring down because of the suckness.

2nd, yes, they can dps on the move

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[magicninja999]

3rd,bard DPS is ALL rng, ALL OF IT!! they do don't have combos like other DD's, except for the AOE's and that crap has like 1/999999 chance of procing, I don't care what the tool tips says(15% my arse).... other then that they have PROCS off other abilities, not combos like MNK, and DRG... Get Bloodletter resets off the bites and venoms and heavy shot procing the crit for straight shot, and its not 100%, sometimes it will proc 5 times in a row, sometimes you can sit there for like a min and not get 1 proc at all... And ya I guess BLM would kinda be in the same boat with BRD, so ya nerf them toooo!! ha

I really getting tired of all you whiny people in these freaking games! ohh content tooo hard! NERF this or that class is out damaging MY class! NERF! NERF NERF NERF!! people like you ruin great games because there are soooo many of you, and you cry all day long on the forums until they freak out and tell the programmers to change it to make you stfu!

[Sapphic]

Simple fact is. If BRD effective DPS was on par with BLM, MNK, LNC, SUM. There would be zero reason to take anyother DD class outside BRD apart from the token one for the damage LB!

Irregardless of BRDs utility as support being needed or just useful. Utility+comparable damage+100% uptime would simply make all other DD classes irrelevant.

Theres a thing called balance.