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    Dragoons: Crit Class with no Crit?

    I've noticed that the bulk of my damage as a dragoon comes from Big Crits but most of Dragoon's armor choices, specifically the dark light armor, doesn't have any Crit on it. Any thoughts?
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    even if dragoon armor increased critical hit rate, we dont really know the extent. you could increase your critical hit chance by 1,000 points, and for all we know that is a 1% increase.
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    SE should really change the "stat. shown" in Character Window, make it atleast when you hover to the X stat. it'll show the percentage of it or smth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorauku View Post
    SE should really change the "stat. shown" in Character Window, make it atleast when you hover to the X stat. it'll show the percentage of it or smth.
    This probably isn't possible however, because your crit rate, acc %, etc are based on your stats vs your targets stats.

    500 crit might be 10% against one lvl 50 mob, and 30% against another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch View Post
    This probably isn't possible however, because your crit rate, acc %, etc are based on your stats vs your targets stats.

    500 crit might be 10% against one lvl 50 mob, and 30% against another.

    It's entirely possible. Blizzard did it in Diablo 2 - whenever you hovered over your accuracy rating it would give you your chance to hit in % vs the last enemy you attacked. In XIV's case, it would probably be easier to just list your rates vs enemies of your own level, and assume the values drop accordingly vs higher level targets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gooner_iBluAirJGR View Post
    I've noticed that the bulk of my damage as a dragoon comes from Big Crits but most of Dragoon's armor choices, specifically the dark light armor, doesn't have any Crit on it. Any thoughts?

    dragoon stat weights:
    Weapon Damage: 7.54
    Strength: 1
    Determination: .22
    Crit: 0.16
    Skill Speed: .146

    what that means is that 1 point in determination will increase your overall dps more than one point in crit (37.5%). str and weapon damage are even moreso a bigger increase. while the heavy crits make a good amount of damage, the little increase from every hit hitting harder (and the crits critting harder) makes for a bigger increase

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinigamiB06 View Post
    even if dragoon armor increased critical hit rate, we dont really know the extent. you could increase your critical hit chance by 1,000 points, and for all we know that is a 1% increase.
    crit chance formula: Crit Chance % = 0.0693 x CRT – 18.486
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    Last edited by xyaie; 10-28-2013 at 08:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xyaie View Post
    dragoon stat weights:
    Weapon Damage: 7.54
    Strength: 1
    Determination: .22
    Crit: 0.16
    Skill Speed: .146

    what that means is that 1 point in determination will increase your overall dps more than one point in crit (37.5%). str and weapon damage are even moreso a bigger increase. while the heavy crits make a good amount of damage, the little increase from every hit hitting harder (and the crits critting harder) makes for a bigger increase



    crit chance formula: Crit Chance % = 0.0693 x CRT – 18.486
    what is your source for this? did you get this from that one guy who basically ran a few tries and drew some excel spreadsheets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinigamiB06 View Post
    what is your source for this? did you get this from that one guy who basically ran a few tries and drew some excel spreadsheets?
    Yeah that's the accepted value at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinigamiB06 View Post
    what is your source for this? did you get this from that one guy who basically ran a few tries and drew some excel spreadsheets?
    It's not "a few"

    It's a variety of theorycrafters who ran a plethora tests and came to the same relative conclusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thyrllan View Post
    It's not "a few"

    It's a variety of theorycrafters who ran a plethora tests and came to the same relative conclusion.
    lol chill dude. i didnt mean it in a way to undermine what they did.
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