new players screwed?

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PLEASE.. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT FATES!! - You have the ability to shout for party members, he could just level Conjurer to 15 for an instant queue then finish the dungeon and continue his way, no queue is 4 hours. The longest queue I've had as a DPS was 44 minutes. Why don't you go help your friend? You can use your current gear it'll sync down..

[DenzelTaru]

stuff

looks like we found a fate grinder :P

[GilbertLapine]

looks like we found a fate grinder :P

Since when is that a bad thing?

[KyteStones]

PLEASE.. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT FATES!! - You have the ability to shout for party members, he could just level Conjurer to 15 for an instant queue then finish the dungeon and continue his way, no queue is 4 hours. The longest queue I've had as a DPS was 44 minutes. Why don't you go help your friend? You can use your current gear it'll sync down..

How long ago was that, that you waited 44 minutes? 3 days ago I queued up for AK. Waited 2 hours. For 2 hours I crafted waiting for a queue pop as a BLM. I created a Gladiator class as a second character, took 3 hours in the DF for it to pop. It popped, a member withdrew from it, and it didn't pop back up. Luckily I had 3 very nice people nearby who seen my shouts since my FC wasn't online at the time all level 50 in DL just doing gathering helped me out. There are extremely long wait times. You shouldn't open your mouth when you don't know what you're talking about.

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/Snippity.

Techically I didn't open my mouth at all, I pressed keys on my keyboard. You must just be really unlucky or I'm lucky the longest queue I've had on a healer was 5 minutes for AK on Monday, DPS is normally 20 - 30 minutes.

[Ri_ri]

How long ago was that, that you waited 44 minutes? 3 days ago I queued up for AK. Waited 2 hours. For 2 hours I crafted waiting for a queue pop as a BLM. I created a Gladiator class as a second character, took 3 hours in the DF for it to pop. It popped, a member withdrew from it, and it didn't pop back up. Luckily I had 3 very nice people nearby who seen my shouts since my FC wasn't online at the time all level 50 in DL just doing gathering helped me out. There are extremely long wait times. You shouldn't open your mouth when you don't know what you're talking about.

I've never waited more than 45 minutes as DD either, places like Wanderer's Palace often goes at 25 mins.

[Klutz64]

PLEASE.. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT FATES!! - You have the ability to shout for party members, he could just level Conjurer to 15 for an instant queue then finish the dungeon and continue his way, no queue is 4 hours. The longest queue I've had as a DPS was 44 minutes. Why don't you go help your friend? You can use your current gear it'll sync down..

Not exactly a fan of the delivery, but I have to agree with the last point. OP's friend must be playing at some really odd hours, 'cause I run the low level dungeons all the time for my alts (Satasha, Copperbell, and Tam-Tara are excellent for getting 15-20 quickly) and have never waited more than an hour

[Bahamuts_Slayer]

no queue is 4 hours. The longest queue I've had as a DPS was 44 minutes.

Umm... I've had 4 hour queues for Amdapor Keep back before they added more instance servers, I know I'm not the only one either.

[Lord_Zlatan]

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Agreed with most of this. People will help if you ask. FFXI gave you no incentive to help newer players. I joined the game in 04 almost 2 years after it came out and there was no shortage of help to be found, even though sometimes it would take a while to get a group going.

And what do FATES have anything to do with this? yes its better EXP but for the love of god its not like everyone currently in the game ONLY grinds fates. I could care less how long it will take me to level my monk alt who I made a new character for. I plan on doing all the dungeons with him so that I can learn my class. Most people will see an advantage to doing the dungeons at some point. Just because FATE grinding happens to be the most effective and boring way to level doesn't mean that the community at large would be unwilling to help someone out for all of 45 minutes it takes to run Sastasha/Tam Tara

[Anakhu]

PLEASE.. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT FATES!! - You have the ability to shout for party members, he could just level Conjurer to 15 for an instant queue then finish the dungeon and continue his way, no queue is 4 hours. The longest queue I've had as a DPS was 44 minutes. Why don't you go help your friend? You can use your current gear it'll sync down..

leveling my thaum , 2-3 hr ques for Halatali. Sorry bud, but they DO take that long sometimes now.

J, E, D, F all selected even.

I have an FC , who are mostly either trying to either finish storyline, relic up, or DL farm.. why would I bother them to help me in a lvl 20 dungeon, and why would they want to. There is no incentive , sure they can be "nice" and do it.. but honestly , how many times have you pretended not to see a request in FC for help in some crap early game dungeon that you just dont want to deal with on your current schedule? It happens quite often, everyone does it at some point, it happens and its understood.

The game needs more incentives for people to WANT to run a lower end dungeon every now and then when asked, or are bored.