new players screwed?

[gelectrode]

So my friend wants to play ffxiv, great. he gets the game and is now level 20 and is trying to do probably pirates. So he is in Q for 4 hours and cant get a group. Then it hits me, i cant run him though by my self and there is no reason for anyone pass this quest to ever run it again since fate spamming is so much better. No one is making more chars other then there 1 because there is almost no need.

So what now, my friend is ok because i can hook him up with 2 more people to help but how does a brand new player with no friends on a server do anything with this game at this point?

[Milmoko_Gemoko]

Be nice, unequip your soul crystal for half an hour and play with your mate
I've been wonderin around Thanalan and helping low level Thurm's do FATEs with my tank, granted I dont have my soul crystal yet but it helps level my Alt class

[Freakiie]

No problem at all! 2.1 will introduce a random dungeon system, so there'll be plenty of high lvl players who will get queued up for lower lvl dungeons!

Oh wait, 2.1 isn't until another 2 months. You'd almost think SE didn't think this through.

[Sunarie]

As someone else mentioned, it's going to be pretty tough with someone brand new to the game, and with no friends. The only real hope is to find an FC/LS with friendly people willing to sync down.

2.1 is suppose to have a system that fixes that (though details about it are scarce atm), but that's a ways out.

[DenzelTaru]

they need to drop fate exp and raise dungeon exp.. or better yet, give us some levelling areas where we can be with a party (this part is off topic of course)

i try to level my jobs in dungeons and therefore am helping new players.. but by level 35 dungeons are no way to level and you are forced to fate if you want to see progress..

fating is stupid, i hate it and it leads to problems like the OP has noted.

there is no skill in casting blizzard II.. and you see these jokers in titan wondering why they cant win..

[Animation]

PLEASE.. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT FATES!! - You have the ability to shout for party members, he could just level Conjurer to 15 for an instant queue then finish the dungeon and continue his way, no queue is 4 hours. The longest queue I've had as a DPS was 44 minutes. Why don't you go help your friend? You can use your current gear it'll sync down..

[DenzelTaru]

stuff

looks like we found a fate grinder :P

[Freakiie]

He stated he did exactly that. HOWEVER a new player who starts this game will NOT have a bunch of high lvl friends helping him out. Shouting won't help much either. When there's nobody around in DF, which is cross server, how high are the odds you actually find people through shout? Not everyone is constantly looking for lowbies they can help.

Also having to lvl to conju just to complete your storyline is once more players being forced to circumvent design flaws. While it's an option it should not be forced onto players to go play another class in order to get things done (and when you're applying for something like Satasha, you don't "just" lvl a class to 15. Heck your main won't be much higher than that at that time)

[Animation]

looks like we found a fate grinder :P

I enjoy the odd FATE or 2.. Hundred.

/snip

I stated options that he could have done..

[Skivvy]

I think it would be helpful if you could be registered for DF while in a party. That way you aren't forced to solo for the hour (or longer) that it takes for a group to finally pop up. I've only had to queue up as a DD a handful of times, and I felt I was being punished during the wait time by not being able to get decent exp whilst waiting due to the party restriction (even having the bird out cancels DF...although I hear this should eventually be changing).

I do think it's important for people to go through dungeons to help learn their jobs, but the wait times are a huge turn off. Hopefully the tweaks they are making will take care of this.