new players screwed?

[DenzelTaru]

they need to drop fate exp and raise dungeon exp.. or better yet, give us some levelling areas where we can be with a party (this part is off topic of course)

i try to level my jobs in dungeons and therefore am helping new players.. but by level 35 dungeons are no way to level and you are forced to fate if you want to see progress..

fating is stupid, i hate it and it leads to problems like the OP has noted.

there is no skill in casting blizzard II.. and you see these jokers in titan wondering why they cant win..

[ItzKris]

they need to drop fate exp and raise dungeon exp.. or better yet, give us some levelling areas where we can be with a party (this part is off topic of course)

i try to level my jobs in dungeons and therefore am helping new players.. but by level 35 dungeons are no way to level and you are forced to fate if you want to see progress..

fating is stupid, i hate it and it leads to problems like the OP has noted.

there is no skill in casting blizzard II.. and you see these jokers in titan wondering why they cant win..

Absolutely agree. It is not a good idea to have story quests REQUIRE dungeons that do not give any significant reward worth repeating. The gear is great, sure, but you can get similar gear from your Grand Company (when that is unlocked of course). So, nerf fates buff dungeons!
If your wondering, yes I absolutely hate FATEs. I dont even heal anyone since it isnt needed. Tanks never tank, usually its some bard who tanks bosses. What is the point of them exactly?

[Klutz64]

Absolutely agree. It is not a good idea to have story quests REQUIRE dungeons that do not give any significant reward worth repeating. The gear is great, sure, but you can get similar gear from your Grand Company (when that is unlocked of course). So, nerf fates buff dungeons!
If your wondering, yes I absolutely hate FATEs. I dont even heal anyone since it isnt needed. Tanks never tank, usually its some bard who tanks bosses. What is the point of them exactly?

It's a double edged sword really, even after the hotfix, getting a decent "last story dungeon" feeling out of CM and Prae is near impossible without the exact right group of people. Since those who want to speed run for tomes and those who just want to get the story out of the way to unlock endgame kind of ruin it.

[Kosmos992k]

they need to drop fate exp and raise dungeon exp..

Um....this has already been done, dungeon XP is much better now.

[Animation]

PLEASE.. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT FATES!! - You have the ability to shout for party members, he could just level Conjurer to 15 for an instant queue then finish the dungeon and continue his way, no queue is 4 hours. The longest queue I've had as a DPS was 44 minutes. Why don't you go help your friend? You can use your current gear it'll sync down..

[DenzelTaru]

stuff

looks like we found a fate grinder :P

[GilbertLapine]

looks like we found a fate grinder :P

Since when is that a bad thing?

[KyteStones]

PLEASE.. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT FATES!! - You have the ability to shout for party members, he could just level Conjurer to 15 for an instant queue then finish the dungeon and continue his way, no queue is 4 hours. The longest queue I've had as a DPS was 44 minutes. Why don't you go help your friend? You can use your current gear it'll sync down..

How long ago was that, that you waited 44 minutes? 3 days ago I queued up for AK. Waited 2 hours. For 2 hours I crafted waiting for a queue pop as a BLM. I created a Gladiator class as a second character, took 3 hours in the DF for it to pop. It popped, a member withdrew from it, and it didn't pop back up. Luckily I had 3 very nice people nearby who seen my shouts since my FC wasn't online at the time all level 50 in DL just doing gathering helped me out. There are extremely long wait times. You shouldn't open your mouth when you don't know what you're talking about.

[Animation]

/Snippity.

Techically I didn't open my mouth at all, I pressed keys on my keyboard. You must just be really unlucky or I'm lucky the longest queue I've had on a healer was 5 minutes for AK on Monday, DPS is normally 20 - 30 minutes.

[Ri_ri]

How long ago was that, that you waited 44 minutes? 3 days ago I queued up for AK. Waited 2 hours. For 2 hours I crafted waiting for a queue pop as a BLM. I created a Gladiator class as a second character, took 3 hours in the DF for it to pop. It popped, a member withdrew from it, and it didn't pop back up. Luckily I had 3 very nice people nearby who seen my shouts since my FC wasn't online at the time all level 50 in DL just doing gathering helped me out. There are extremely long wait times. You shouldn't open your mouth when you don't know what you're talking about.

I've never waited more than 45 minutes as DD either, places like Wanderer's Palace often goes at 25 mins.