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  1. #41
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    axemtitanium's Avatar
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    Titania Basilikos
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Patorikku View Post
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    What Pellegri said but this does remind me of a 1.0 mechanic. In the Nael Deus Darnus (Hard) fight in 1.0, you had to craft Deaspected Clusters into Lunar Curtains in order to survive Mega Flare. Is it possible that there's some unique consumable that's being missed? Maybe it drops from mobs in turn 3? I don't see any good candidates in xivdb but maybe it wasn't parsed from the DATs properly?
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  2. #42
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    Yenn Sylph
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    A lot of these suggestions are ridiculous. I feel like most of the people in this thread haven't even experienced Twisters.

    What Pellegri said but this does remind me of a 1.0 mechanic. In the Nael Deus Darnus (Hard) fight in 1.0, you had to craft Deaspected Clusters into Lunar Curtains in order to survive Mega Flare. Is it possible that there's some unique consumable that's being missed? Maybe it drops from mobs in turn 3? I don't see any good candidates in xivdb but maybe it wasn't parsed from the DATs properly?
    There's no indicator that a Twister is going to one shot you. It's not like this ability is always a one shot, it's only a one shot 50% of the time.
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  3. #43
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    BlossomRose's Avatar
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    Vali Bergthora
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Have people tried, like... moving earlier?

    And I don't mean waiting for the cast. I mean, someone in the raid has a timer running, and if Twintania actually does cast it every minute on the nose, he warns people to start moving at 50 seconds (to account for voice chat lag/in-game delays, etc).

    If five to ten seconds of advance moving still don't change a thing then you'll know for sure it's bugged, or there's something else to it than just moving.
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  4. #44
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    SonyaArin's Avatar
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    Sonya Arinborn
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlossomRose View Post
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    We have tried moving pre-cast, yeah. It's pretty easy to test that one since she'll do it almost immediately when she comes down, so you can get one off by just running forever until it happens at the transition. Sadly no clip of that until Turn 5 is back up. I was hoping a few FCs might have a couple clips they wanted to demonstrate as well when they made this, but at current pace I think most have let twitch records fade off on the auto-delete like mine have been when there's nothing particular I want to save (or don't want to share, which is fine).

    Since Yenn mentioned it - it's true that a lot of these are far fetched, but in the effort of remaining unbiased so that owning the thread doesn't become some leadership thing, I'm just going to add mostly anything.
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  5. #45
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    Curious, why 300? Is this the current cap?

    What makes Twisters so strange is the missing damage display.
    For example, the golem AoE in AK hits you exactly for the number of your HP, no matter how much you have - so that's a certain 1hko.
    What could the reason for the missing damage display be?
    No he doesn't. I'm too lazy to move and just tank plainscracker all the time. It was probably hilarious RnG that you got hit exactly for your HP that one (or more 0.o) times.

    Edit: unless it was changed last patch.
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  6. #46
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    Shi Ji
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlossomRose View Post
    Have people tried, like... moving earlier?

    And I don't mean waiting for the cast. I mean, someone in the raid has a timer running, and if Twintania actually does cast it every minute on the nose, he warns people to start moving at 50 seconds (to account for voice chat lag/in-game delays, etc).

    If five to ten seconds of advance moving still don't change a thing then you'll know for sure it's bugged, or there's something else to it than just moving.
    ...Really? If moving preemptively was the key pretty sure many FC's would have downed it long ago. It's not bugged (according to the devs and community manager) which means it's probably something obscure or something extremely precise.
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  7. #47
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    Vali Bergthora
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiji View Post
    ...Really? If moving preemptively was the key pretty sure many FC's would have downed it long ago. It's not bugged (according to the devs and community manager) which means it's probably something obscure or something extremely precise.
    Stupid questions will be asked because FCs are refusing to share the details of everything they're trying. You're kinda gonna have to deal with it until said FCs stop being so hush hush about it, and being rude about it is pretty unproductive.
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  8. #48
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    Kurald Thyrllan
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlossomRose View Post
    Stupid questions will be asked because FCs are refusing to share the details of everything they're trying. You're kinda gonna have to deal with it until said FCs stop being so hush hush about it, and being rude about it is pretty unproductive.
    People are rude because suggestions like "move early" or "try jumping" have been posted in every Turn 5 thread on reddit, here, blue-gartr, or any unofficial forum since Twister become a major problem for guilds.
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  9. #49
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    Sentinel Smith
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    Ultros
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Two theories:

    1. Perhaps players getting hit (or not getting hit) by certain abilities previously in the fight determines how "close" the Twister spawns under you. If you get hit (or don't get hit) by enough abilities, you get insta-gibbed.

    2. Perhaps the ability works in a strange way in accordance to movement. Let's say instead of running in a straight line away from Twintania, you could zig-zag or do an about-face at a certain point during her cast.

    It could also potentially be a combination of the two. Now, for the second one, it's entirely possible that if it were true, that being able to get away by running in a straight line could be a red herring mechanic, in which players would exclaim "But I got away last time, I must've lagged or did it wrong this time!" We haven't had enough pulls on Twintania (The week we beat Turn 4, she was taken down, then we got a few hours' worth of pulls on her the following Monday and she went down again, I'm so sad.) to see if this is the case, but again, if it were true, I'd expect some sort of zig-zag pattern at the right time to have a 100% escape chance while a red herring straight line escape to have a 50% chance, giving the illusion that it's viable.
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    Last edited by Xbob42; 10-20-2013 at 05:45 PM.

  10. #50
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    Ceol Ashwin
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Yenn View Post
    A lot of these suggestions are ridiculous. I feel like most of the people in this thread haven't even experienced Twisters.
    Did you even read the first post? This thread is for collecting any and all pieces of evidence, no matter how ridiculous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thyrllan View Post
    People are rude because suggestions like "move early" or "try jumping" have been posted in every Turn 5 thread on reddit, here, blue-gartr, or any unofficial forum since Twister become a major problem for guilds.
    If you're going to be rude about that, get right the hell out of this thread, because its entire purpose is to be a place for people to bring forth such suggestions.

    Try reading the first post next time.
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