Sorry SE, but endgame won't work if you don't fix something.

[billydata21]

That fight is easy and i'm not saying i'm better than most of you. It's about learning his rotation and having everybody know it. If you know when he is about to do weight, then start moving before he casts the ability.

I didn't want to read through 100 pages of this, but i'm sure there had to of been another person that made a comment like this. That fight is fun and it's a fight you have to work together with.

I really hope they don't try and make it easier somehow because some people don't take the time to learn it.

[Gamina]

That fight is easy and i'm not saying i'm better than most of you. It's about learning his rotation and having everybody know it. If you know when he is about to do weight, then start moving before he casts the ability.

I didn't want to read through 100 pages of this, but i'm sure there had to of been another person that made a comment like this. That fight is fun and it's a fight you have to work together with.

I really hope they don't try and make it easier somehow because some people don't take the time to learn it.

And by not reading the thread you have made the assumption that many people have here that this is a thread about Titan. Titan is cited as an example of the issue as this is where it really comes to the fore as it is so unforgiving in being in/ out of aoe. The issue is about the delay from level 1 in all areas of the game that make the basic mechanics that all fights are based on (see an attack and avoid) null and void.

[KimimiAvesta]

That fight is easy and i'm not saying i'm better than most of you. It's about learning his rotation and having everybody know it. If you know when he is about to do weight, then start moving before he casts the ability. .

Do you not think it's a tiny bit of a problem if the game isn't showing you what's actually happening? Do you think having to move before an attack is even being shown is intended design - that the team seriously expect us to react to things that aren't happening yet?

[billydata21]

And by not reading the thread you have made the assumption that many people have here that this is a thread about Titan. Titan is cited as an example of the issue as this is where it really comes to the fore as it is so unforgiving in being in/ out of aoe. The issue is about the delay from level 1 in all areas of the game that make the basic mechanics that all fights are based on (see an attack and avoid) null and void.

My bad, I was just using the example that I seen. I haven't had many problems with moving out of the way of things at all though. and i'm playing on ps3 and i know that things show up for ps3 players way later than pc players.

[Goreth]

It's about learning his rotation and having everybody know it. If you know when he is about to do weight, then start moving before he casts the ability.

You are explaining how to work around the problem we are trying to address the underlying issue. What if they started adding dynamic mechanics to fights that didn't follow a set pattern? Even a fight like demon wall would become challenging if repel happened randomly and somewhat faster, not because the mechanic is difficult, but because you would only have an 80% chance of the server recognizing a successful dodge. Rote memorization is alright for early boss content like Titan but it really limits where you can go as the game progresses, right now people who don't really read the thread think it's about the Titan fight, but it's really about the long term future of the game.

[Altena]

right now people who don't really read the thread think it's about the Titan fight, but it's really about the long term future of the game.

Thank god. Someone finally printed it in black and white.

[TheRac25]

If you know when he is about to do weight, then start moving before he casts the ability.

this is absurd, moving before the weights appears only puts them out of stack and kills other people, its clear you have not been to the last phase

[billydata21]

this is absurd, moving before the weights appears only puts them out of stack and kills other people, its clear you have not been to the last phase

I have 3 relic weapons, that fight is so easy. I don't get hit with anything other than stomps ever.

[Sunarie]

I have 3 relic weapons, that fight is so easy. I don't get hit with anything other than stomps ever.

Whether or not things can be dodged isn't really what's being argued. No one wants Titan nerfed. What we want, is the indicators we're given on the screen to be correct. I don't care that 90% of the time I dodge stuff just fine. I do care that I actively have to be out of things before the cast bar hits about 80% in order to successfully dodge. Lag/positional updating is an issue.. it can be worked around, but it's still an issue.

[DarkSnowyWolf]

I have 3 relic weapons, that fight is so easy. I don't get hit with anything other than stomps ever.

The fight isn't hard..no one really said it was hard

what makes it unplayable is you fall off even when you're NOT near landslide, plumes or the bombs anymore

go search youtube and you'll see it happening