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    Quote Originally Posted by Ofiach View Post
    *enters temple and cries about 79 pages* basically these are some TFL: DR questions about being a monk.

    I want to focus on one type of crafting initially should I be going for leather or clothworking?

    Is it worth leveling up a thaumaturge(iirc) for the cure or can monks do fine without it for the most part?

    Are there any other really necessary skills from other classes I should look into? Like stuns for flank and spank moves added to the chain and things like that.

    Also the only other FF game I have played is FF:Tactics, I'm really digging this. So sorry if these questions are dumb and obvious because to me they are not.
    monk can only cross skill from marauder and lancer, so you cant have cure/thm skill btw, cure is conjurer skill
    you will want more than 1 DoH if you are serious of crafting 2 star HQ

    just hit 50 on monk, can anyone suggest an optimal rotation using behind and flank skill ?
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    Thanks for the info. I've been playing for 2 days so the learning curve is still very steep for me.

    Honestly crafting isn't going to be a huge deal to me I just want to be able to supplement level gains with decent crafting. I wasn't sure if the leather/cloth route was better for that. Also if you can enlighten me on the best set of DoH skills for crafting items for monk, I would really appreciate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ofiach View Post
    Thanks for the info. I've been playing for 2 days so the learning curve is still very steep for me.

    Honestly crafting isn't going to be a huge deal to me I just want to be able to supplement level gains with decent crafting. I wasn't sure if the leather/cloth route was better for that. Also if you can enlighten me on the best set of DoH skills for crafting items for monk, I would really appreciate it.
    basically almost all crafting only need waste not from leatherworker, rumination from carpenter i guess, and trick of trade
    all of them are lvl 15 DoH skill
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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanlord View Post
    just hit 50 on monk, can anyone suggest an optimal rotation using behind and flank skill ?
    PB opening
    DK > SP > SP > SP > IR > DM > FR > ToD (will give GL3)


    1. Open Behind - (skipped if opening with PB) Only start with this if you have GL3 and not opening with PB)
    BS > TS > IR > DM > Frac > ToD

    The rest are assuming you have GL3

    2. Flank
    DK > TwS > SP (If you don't have GL3, you can repeat this 3 times to get it.)
    3. Behind
    ID > ID > BS > TS > Flank SP
    4. Flank
    DK > TwS > DM > SP
    5. Behind
    ID > ID > BS > TS > Flank SP
    6. Flank
    DK > TwS > SP
    7. Behind (stage 1 repeat)
    ID > ID > BS > TS > IR > DM > Frac > ToD

    If you have BfB which i dont yet, then add with with IR.

    If TP becomes an issue can lower 1 ID or remove entirely. With a Bard and invigorate you should be OK.

    This is what i use anyway. Hopefully its not TOOOO bad for people to rip into it xD Gives me a decent dps with my crappy weapon and AK armour (working on DL atm)
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    Last edited by KaosPrimeZero; 10-11-2013 at 06:14 PM.

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    thank you! ill try that now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia View Post
    You'll have to forgive me for being an idiot, because I don't understand how that formula is applicable.
    [...]
    This is what the damage formula suggests. What am I missing?
    What i showed you is the DPS% gain per crit%. So you're right, you'll gain the same amount of dps for each percent, but since you add it to higher amount the more crit you've, the %gain will be lowered each time you gain a new crit%.

    So at a certain point of SS, Crit can be better or worse than SS depending of your actual crit rate. And vice versa, since SS works the same way.

    I should have write "stats" instead of "crit" in my first post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaosPrimeZero View Post
    If TP becomes an issue can lower 1 ID or remove entirely. With a Bard and invigorate you should be OK.

    This is what i use anyway. Hopefully its not TOOOO bad for people to rip into it xD Gives me a decent dps with my crappy weapon and AK armour (working on DL atm)
    The issue is the added risk for maintaining GL stacks and the extra TP/s burned. Fracture is a pretty decent DPS increase and usually worth it, but Impulse Drive is only a very small increase in DPS, with the cost of the extra TP and GL risk (in addition to the chance to flub the ID itself, wasting it). I generally wouldn't recommend ID on a Monk, although it is relevant for purely maximizing DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    The issue is the added risk for maintaining GL stacks and the extra TP/s burned. Fracture is a pretty decent DPS increase and usually worth it, but Impulse Drive is only a very small increase in DPS, with the cost of the extra TP and GL risk (in addition to the chance to flub the ID itself, wasting it). I generally wouldn't recommend ID on a Monk, although it is relevant for purely maximizing DPS.
    Yeah for a prolonged fight where TP maintenance is an issue, i would ommit ID, however if i am zerging the boss e.g. AK final boss, i simply go all out. Doesnt live long enough for tp to be an issue ^^
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    I was looking around and i didn't find anythin about how much SS a monk should have.
    Does anyone know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odiato View Post
    I was looking around and i didn't find anythin about how much SS a monk should have.
    Does anyone know?
    WTF? SS? Do you mean skill speed? If so, I have 450, but Mr Happy has 491 for some reason and I saw a literal no life with 540 speed.
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    Last edited by Lucipurr; 10-12-2013 at 02:18 PM.

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