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  1. #51
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    Xatsh Vei
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    I have to agree others, we are paying to play this game there should be no "well you cannot play anymore" situations.

    But the Issue is the lack of content in general, not lockouts per say. Lockouts are fine in a p2p game.... just not when there is nothing else to do. XI had a stupid amount of them but you never ever ran out of stuff even if you played 16hrs a day. Not so in XIV.

    Example: We got all our coil groups in the guild to turn 5 (Disabled atm) and most people are capped myth. So we are paying to play a game that we can do a whole weeks content in 72hrs. This will not work a p2p game, yea we are hardcore and dedicate a decent amount of time to it. But that does not matter at all. Game needs more valid non-negated content to be added. Negated as in content that is not worth doing any more.

    Big issue is SE made relics way to easy to get. That should of been a time sink. That way Primal Farming would be worth doing... it takes 4hrs to go from scratch to a relic weapon which is crazy.

    I am hoping 2.1 fixes it. The crystal tower alliance thing is worrying me atm. I am hoping SE lets you take your guild only if you choose in there and not force us to get 2 pug partys. (The lack of an alliance feature and no talk of one worries me atm)
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  2. #52
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    SolviteSekai's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
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    So you are saying that if you can't farm Mythology tomes you can't play?
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by SolviteSekai View Post
    So you are saying that if you can't farm Mythology tomes you can't play?
    No, they are saying if they can't farm mythology tomes they can't play the way they want to.

    This pattern should be pretty easy to recognize as a c*** block or speedbump. It's classic game design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    Big issue is SE made relics way to easy to get. That should of been a time sink. That way Primal Farming would be worth doing... it takes 4hrs to go from scratch to a relic weapon which is crazy.
    No one is hitting 50 and getting their relic in 4 hours unless they are getting carried. No patch is going to fix this. If you play a lot, you will run out of content - always and forever. You may as well decide now if you are okay with this or not, cause it ain't changing.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retrograde View Post
    No, they are saying if they can't farm mythology tomes they can't play the way they want to.

    This pattern should be pretty easy to recognize as a c*** block or speedbump. It's classic game design.
    People who play the game for 16 hours a day are the minority. The EXTREME minority.

    I'm not saying the casual is more important, but really, if you can't handle the caps you need to play a game that isn't new. I'm not defending the game's lack of content, because it sucks. I'm not defending the lag or other issues, because they suck.

    However, based on Xatsh's comments I have to infer that they started playing FFXI way after release and expect all games to be that way.

    The correct solution for not being able to play a game the way you want to, is to go out and find a game that lets you play in a way that you find enjoyable.

    Going onto the forums and causing needless concern won't make the game better.
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    There's no excuse for gated content on a game that encourages you to have only one character. I honestly hope developers stop copying the bad aspects from older MMORPGs.
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    Meleena Steelheart
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    This pattern should be pretty easy to recognize as a c*** block or speedbump. It's classic game design.
    And one that it does well and exists in this game.
    This is the way it should be done, or they could go oldschool way and make leveling last 6 months per class (which is also fine but new players are not satisfied if they dont reach level 50 in a day).

    Square Enix know what they are doing, its the players that need to wake up and see whats happening here.
    If you guys could farm all the mythology you want, you would have quit game 1 month ago.
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  8. #58
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    Xatsh Vei
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    Quote Originally Posted by SolviteSekai View Post
    So you are saying that if you can't farm Mythology tomes you can't play?
    NO I am saying if you are at cap tomes, you cannot run Baha Coil, and you have all 50s you cannot really progress much farther.

    As for leveling you can get to cap in 3 days as well per job. So even if you are non-legacy it is too easy to level.

    This is the problem with current mmos... this mentality that you will always run out of content if you are hardcore, or you just have to be casual. People wonder why every game in the last 8yrs has failed more or less with the p2p model. It is not the subs, it is the fact people will not pay to be bored. It is the DEVS job to give us enough content. IF they want to make it casual only content they need to add it alot faster then they are because a hardcore guild will burn through 3 months of development in 2 days if it is casual.

    Solution: Add stuff that is not Casual along side the casual. Both partys are happy.
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    Seijuro Hiko
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    what make me laugh is people spaming the fastest way to make mythos then cry because they have nothing else to do and they only do one boring dungeon

    one possible solution:
    remove "general" weakly cap
    add a PER EVENT cap (200 from Ak 100->300 from each primals )
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    Luna Sushima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeled View Post
    Great logic. Anyone that's bored with 2 instances, a raid, and 3 spare fights plays too much.

    No, there should be more content.
    OR! you know, you can do the other 90% of the game, that some people seemed to jump over and forget about, instead of just doing the same thing over and over on 1 class, just sayin'
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