The Monk Temple

[KaosPrimeZero]

Right sorry for double post, here is my newly improved rotation. Please let me know where i can improve When im home from work and out of AK will test this out on a dummy and see what i get....

PB opening
DK > SP > SP > SP > IR > DM > FR > ToD

1. Open Behind - (skipped if opening with PB)
BS > TS > IR > DM > Frac > ToD
2. Flank
DK > TwS > SP
3. Behind
BS > TS > Flank SP
4. Flank
DK > TwS > DM > SP
5. Behind
BS > TS > Flank SP
6. Flank
DK > TwS > SP
7. Behind (stage 1 repeat)
BS > TS > IR > DM > Frac > ToD

I do not have Invigorate, BfB or Mercy Stroke yet, working on these. Also Inbetween rotations off GCD:
Howling Fist (used when up)
Steel Peak (used when needing to stun)
Shoulder Tackle (when needing to rush a enemy to maintain GL3)

Thanks!

[Balboa]

I am a pvp focused player waiting for it... I know ARR seems 99% pve oriented, but I still have hopes that pvp will be at least "decent".

My concern as a MNK is if all that "optimal" skills rotations posted above will work on a dinamic pvp, with targets on perpetual motion. Dont think so. Also we dont have ranged attacks (as BRD, BLM...), neither we can rely on a single and long CD gap closer.

I am curious if Fist of Winds will do this job in pvp.

(sry, my english is a bit.. )

[KaosPrimeZero]

I am a pvp focused player waiting for it... I know ARR seems 99% pve oriented, but I still have hopes that pvp will be at least "decent".

My concern as a MNK is if all that "optimal" skills rotations posted above will work on a dinamic pvp, with targets on perpetual motion. Dont think so. Also we dont have ranged attacks (as BRD, BLM...), neither we can rely on a single and long CD gap closer.

I am curious if Fist of Winds will do this job in pvp.

(sry, my english is a bit.. )

Skill sets in PvP will be different to that in PvE

[Mishaela]

PB opening
etc.

You don't need Mercy Stroke but you will definitely want Invigorate. Rotation seems fine but rotations on paper rarely translate directly to in-game actuality as you're probably aware. Waiting for GL3 to apply ToD is what I do, too. If I'm not doing a PB opening, I usually use Demolish on first rotation since it will be falling off right around the time I get GL3 up to reapply the stronger one; depends on the fight but I typically save PB for "uh oh, lost GL" moments rather than for openers...the only consistent exception is turn 4 start where I PB to spam Rockbreaker on the bugs at the start, otherwise a normal 20s windup is fine because I'll get hate otherwise if I open with PB and burst too hard at the start (with current gear including relic+1 I get about 290 DPS [can we talk about DPS?] on a target dummy over a 90 second window FWIW but that's not a realistic number to expect in real combat--200-250 is more normal for single-target fights without a ton of movement). I generally leave True Strike out in any pass through my forms that I use a non-form skill (like ToD or Fracture) to make sure Twin's buff stays up. I don't have the SS to rotate it consistently.

[KaosPrimeZero]

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Yeah i know the feeling. I know my SS isnt up to scratch and in fact its lacking, but i feel after chopping and searching and many QQ'ing in this thread and others and many thanks to the help along the way by all, this rotation is a good starting point. My SS is around 430 which i believe might be too low for TS to be included. Yes i also appreciate in fights such things as set rotations do not always work but it allows you to keep track of them dots. Once in the rythem you know after 3 cycles or 4 etc that they need reaaplying. At least thats what im hoping anyways. Ill start working on fixing my hot bar to reflect this rotation tonight. Heres hoping i can enter the monk hood, the true brotherhood of FFXIV ^^

[Mishaela]

At least thats what im hoping anyways. Ill start working on fixing my hot bar to reflect this rotation tonight. Heres hoping i can enter the monk hood, the true brotherhood of FFXIV ^^

I'm actually currently at 476 skill speed putting me at a 2.01s GCD (with GL3) so I can afford to work True Strike in (in any cycle that doesn't include a non-form skill, as I mentioned). Current gear stat distribution doesn't allow for much lower than a 2s GCD (looking at an allagan/AF2 mix while maintaining ACC, you really don't gain much SS, mostly STR and Crit gains over melded HQ gryphon/DL mix), but SCH's fairy can help with that. I run into threat issues even without using True Strike frequently, even with well geared tanks because MNK is just strong when played at not-lazy skill levels. Threat not so much an issue on something like Titan where I have to move away every now and then, but fights in turn 2 and 4 it's something to be aware of.

As for hotbar, I keep my skills organized on hotbar by form. http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3605/8heg.jpg I've since switched Mantra and Second Wind but otherwise the same.