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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanlord View Post
    just hit 50 on monk, can anyone suggest an optimal rotation using behind and flank skill ?
    PB opening
    DK > SP > SP > SP > IR > DM > FR > ToD (will give GL3)


    1. Open Behind - (skipped if opening with PB) Only start with this if you have GL3 and not opening with PB)
    BS > TS > IR > DM > Frac > ToD

    The rest are assuming you have GL3

    2. Flank
    DK > TwS > SP (If you don't have GL3, you can repeat this 3 times to get it.)
    3. Behind
    ID > ID > BS > TS > Flank SP
    4. Flank
    DK > TwS > DM > SP
    5. Behind
    ID > ID > BS > TS > Flank SP
    6. Flank
    DK > TwS > SP
    7. Behind (stage 1 repeat)
    ID > ID > BS > TS > IR > DM > Frac > ToD

    If you have BfB which i dont yet, then add with with IR.

    If TP becomes an issue can lower 1 ID or remove entirely. With a Bard and invigorate you should be OK.

    This is what i use anyway. Hopefully its not TOOOO bad for people to rip into it xD Gives me a decent dps with my crappy weapon and AK armour (working on DL atm)
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    Last edited by KaosPrimeZero; 10-11-2013 at 06:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaosPrimeZero View Post
    If TP becomes an issue can lower 1 ID or remove entirely. With a Bard and invigorate you should be OK.

    This is what i use anyway. Hopefully its not TOOOO bad for people to rip into it xD Gives me a decent dps with my crappy weapon and AK armour (working on DL atm)
    The issue is the added risk for maintaining GL stacks and the extra TP/s burned. Fracture is a pretty decent DPS increase and usually worth it, but Impulse Drive is only a very small increase in DPS, with the cost of the extra TP and GL risk (in addition to the chance to flub the ID itself, wasting it). I generally wouldn't recommend ID on a Monk, although it is relevant for purely maximizing DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    The issue is the added risk for maintaining GL stacks and the extra TP/s burned. Fracture is a pretty decent DPS increase and usually worth it, but Impulse Drive is only a very small increase in DPS, with the cost of the extra TP and GL risk (in addition to the chance to flub the ID itself, wasting it). I generally wouldn't recommend ID on a Monk, although it is relevant for purely maximizing DPS.
    Yeah for a prolonged fight where TP maintenance is an issue, i would ommit ID, however if i am zerging the boss e.g. AK final boss, i simply go all out. Doesnt live long enough for tp to be an issue ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaosPrimeZero View Post
    PB opening
    DK > SP > SP > SP > IR > DM > FR > ToD (will give GL3)


    1. Open Behind - (skipped if opening with PB) Only start with this if you have GL3 and not opening with PB)
    BS > TS > IR > DM > Frac > ToD

    The rest are assuming you have GL3

    2. Flank
    DK > TwS > SP (If you don't have GL3, you can repeat this 3 times to get it.)
    3. Behind
    ID > ID > BS > TS > Flank SP
    4. Flank
    DK > TwS > DM > SP
    5. Behind
    ID > ID > BS > TS > Flank SP
    6. Flank
    DK > TwS > SP
    7. Behind (stage 1 repeat)
    ID > ID > BS > TS > IR > DM > Frac > ToD
    Is this the optimal MNK rotation? I haven't touched my MNK since 1.0 so I'm lost on how to play it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kajii_ View Post
    Is this the optimal MNK rotation? I haven't touched my MNK since 1.0 so I'm lost on how to play it.
    I was in the same boat. This i feel is optimal for boss fights. For trash mobs, remove all DoT's so Demolish, Fracture and Touch of death. If you really want to add 1 DoT then make it demolish as it completes the GL rotation.
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    thank you! ill try that now
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    I was looking around and i didn't find anythin about how much SS a monk should have.
    Does anyone know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odiato View Post
    I was looking around and i didn't find anythin about how much SS a monk should have.
    Does anyone know?
    WTF? SS? Do you mean skill speed? If so, I have 450, but Mr Happy has 491 for some reason and I saw a literal no life with 540 speed.
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    So to verify, there is no Best in Slot gear for Monk that is AF2, right? Allagan is all better in every slot?

    I'm having trouble deciding what to buy with my myth tokens considering I have 4 gryphonskins (chest/legs/boots/ring) and the rest Darklight, and I have a Coil group that can beat turn 1 and will be working on turn 2 next week (will probably get it, didn't seem too hard).

    Here's me: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/2253344/ What do you think, should I go for the myth helm since the allagan visor drops in turn 4? But then again, the allagan helmet is much better than the AF2 one, so then I'll feel like I wasted myths. I could get the chest piece since it's comparable in DPS (according to that spreadsheet someone posted) to the allagan and nobody has posted where the Monk chest drops in Coil yet, but then I would probably feel bad for replacing gryphonskin I spent a lot on. The chest would have a lot of +ACC though which would help if Allagan pieces start to drop since most of them don't have ACC. Ugh! Lol, stressing myself out! What do you guys think the wisest path to take with myths is? And just wanted to verify, is any AF2 better than Allagan at all in any slot, including all the accessories? Myth necklace looks like it might be BiS....
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    Last edited by Riot55; 10-13-2013 at 03:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riot55 View Post
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    Imho, AF2 helm is better than allagan visor, the +6crit it's better than the determination, this is the only one AF2 piece which is worth it. The AF2 legs are also better than allagan, but without the turn 5 gear, the +34acc force you to drop other bis piece to not exceed too much the acc cap.

    This is my bis pre turn 5 implying allagan cuirass doesn't drop on turn 1-4 : http://en.xivdb.com/?wardrobe/2099/mnk3
    With the turn 5 : http://en.xivdb.com/?wardrobe/2097/mnk (just add the 3 bis from t5 and switch legs and neck for acc)

    I think you should buy the AF2 helm, maybe, idk, gl
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