I can’t ignore this anymore! Something should be done about it!

[Tanaya]

If you read the entire thread you will see people talking about other changes to the cat characters outside of butts. But I expect you to generalize because half of you in here have. I assume everyone who goes "ew" "omg so pervy" attitude is under the age of 16 or someone over the age of 16 who is uncomfortable about the nude body. Which is plan sad if the later is correct.

I find the fact you find this such a topic to get so riled about to be even more sad.

But I'm not here to judge. The only reason why I popped in here is because I decided to take a look at the Dev tracker, which said, and I quote:

I deeply apologize for those of you who were really partial to what Miqo’tes looked like in 1.0, but this decision was made so we could relaunch with new races and a lot of new equipment. We will be implementing a wide variety of really cool looking equipment moving forward, and we appreciate your understanding on this.

So you'll have to forgive me for believing that the majority of players demanding for a change happens to be all about the cat butts, since that's what the Devs believe as well.

Keep in mind I've been reading topics like this ever since beta, and back then, I agreed with it.

So please, continue to demand constructive posts and make an ass out of yourself with your assumptions. You're only hurting the OP's plight with your confrontational attitude. Not everyone here is gonna take this as seriously as you do, given the topic. You'll just have to accept that.

[Tupsi]

Half the people agreeing with the OP are females that care about how their character looks. Maybe you can only operate with wanting something to sexual stimulate you but not everyone thinks one way.

1. I'm Female.
2. I don't recall stating I get sexually stimulated by pixels and polygons (or lack thereof..)
3. A lot of people seriously upset about this aren't upset about it because of aesthetics overall, a lot of people like looking at shapely bodies which is the main reason some are upset about it, denying it is silly.

It's really silly to make an argument about sexual stimulation when it's a common fact that a lot of people that play female characters are attracted to the appearance of them, not necessarily sexual. Personal =/= Sexual, it simply means it's something they care for, which the game clearly continued even though their model was changed.

[LoLo]

1. I'm Female.
2. I don't recall stating I get sexually stimulated by pixels and polygons (or lack thereof..)
3. A lot of people seriously upset about this aren't upset about it because of aesthetics overall, a lot of people like looking at shapely bodies which is the main reason some are upset about it, denying it is silly.

It's really silly to make an argument about sexual stimulation when it's a common fact that a lot of people that play female characters are attracted to the appearance of them, not necessarily sexual. Personal =/= Sexual, it simply means it's something they care for, which the game clearly continued even though their model was changed.

Or maybe they want their old character back, not one that was butchered? That doesnt seem very personal expecially when no one was warned that the model would be revised, instead we where told we would get new races.

I have a problem with your number 3. Can you read everyone's mind? Do you have cameras in everyone's house monitoring how they play FFXIV? So how do you know why their "real" reason for playing is? Maybe you should stop judging people. Not everyone on the internet is a sexual deviant that wants to ogle some pixels.

If you think people are this way, then I'm thinking that maybe you are trying deflect your own thoughts on others. Which I hope isnt the case.

[Duelle]

It doesn't need to be a sacrifice tho they can just re-scale the bottom half with a patch, I don't see what the big deal is about fixing it honestly, it wouldn't take too much of there time to patch this.

I'm more than a month late but thought I should chime in on this one.

At least to my knowledge model animations are not entirely animation schedules (the way they were in FFXI). By this I mean stuff that is technically "loose" such as cloth straps, hair, flaps in clothing and so on had their own animations to simulate physics without actually having any in the game. This is why they had slightly more freedom with body shapes (female elvaan and their bountiful derrieres come to mind...).

ARR's engine seems to be a mix of animation schedules (for movement like walking, running, strafing, casting animations) and physics (for hair and clothing). The main problem is that round surfaces + physics are very system intensive, and can be difficult to get right using minimalistic approaches like decreasing poly count of models. I'd know because I've been tinkering with dat mods (nowhere near to godlike entities like Mooshywooshy) and FFXI models for MMD. Part of getting the physics right involves, as you may have guessed, removing some of the roundness from the backsides of characters when called for.

I'll admit, this is just based on what little experience I have tinkering with models. I don't know the details of ARRs engine nor did I go to school for computer animation. I will say cutting the "fat" is faster and easier to put together, so I can believe Suzuki-san when he says it was done to save themselves time and money.

[LoLo]

snip.

Then if you arent going to read all of the thread... can I ask why you continue to post that the people in here are only on about butts? If you only want to read one comment and then make a blanket statement then you should expect people to correct you. Its not being riled up, its telling you that you are making a blind judgement.

The dev quoted a post that talked about the waist being changed not the behind. The quote you posted has the dev say nothing about only the behind. You read into more than what you even posted.

He said "partial to what Miqo’tes looked like in 1.0" that means the whole look of the character not just the behind.

Looks like you are the one riled up because you have resorted to curse words and being defensive.

[Jynx]

Man we need Mooshy to get in this game....

[Tupsi]

Or maybe they want their old character back, not one that was butchered? That doesnt seem very personal expecially when no one was warned that the model would be revised, instead we where told we would get new races.

That's why I personally find it odd out of all of the races (excluding new female versions of old races) they chose Miqote's model to change.

[Duelle]

Man we need Mooshy to get in this game....

Without the proper "tools" for the job, I don't think Mooshy could bring us the awesomeness he was known for in FFXI.

That being said, SE seems to be against FFXIV machinima so it seems we're out of luck on that one.

[Tupsi]

Without the proper "tools" for the job, I don't think Mooshy could bring us the awesomeness he was known for in FFXI.

That being said, SE seems to be against FFXIV machinima so it seems we're out of luck on that one.

The tools exist actually, the problem is the format is extremely touchy which is why it's a pain to even swap the music like you could in 1.0/XI.

[Vandark]

I'm more than a month late but thought I should chime in on this one.

Yeah you did quote me on a very old comment lots more has come to our attention since then.

We should probably be talking now about the angle the hip is and how the pelvis is tilted as a possible easier quick fix to minimize the odd appearance of the side view.

I still believe the appearance of the Female Miquo'te can be better achieved threw other terms.

Also @Tupsi perhaps you should listen to LoLo because she is correct on this matter.