XIV WAR Tanking - Baseline Mitigation and PLD comparison

[HiirNoivl]

Oh please. It is not that hard. Most of my stuff ain't even melded. Ya'll need to quit whinging.

What makes you assume that you are the "optimal" warrior tank and we are looking to be like you? The numbers you provided from your build still make you sub-par to a paladin tank with lesser gear...

Ain't nobody I play with poking at my clothes. Though I carefully consider my options and make adjustments based on encounters, bring food and potions and stuff, you know... like an endgame player who actually monitors her play and takes care of things. I don't view this as "extra" effort. But I love the job. I've played Coil as PLD. I didn't like it to be honest, but I was willing to do it. I didn't see the huge advantage of PLD over WAR. I can see some situations where PLD could be better, but I could see some situations were WAR could be better too. I think the "WAR inferiority complex" has gone on long enough. If I hit a wall at Coil 4 (I'm expecting 0 trouble at Coil 3) I'll get back to you.

Once again the issue is not that it is impossible to do some of coil with a warrior tank... it is the fact that doing it with a warrior tank takes more healing. You are delusional if you think by going in as a warrior you are some how helping the party out. Sure you might not do as well playing a paladin as you do playing a warrior - But a well played PLD will perform better than a well played Warrior every time in any encounter where the incoming dps is over 400ish.

I ask: "Do you want me to switch to PLD? I can if you guys want." The answer was a resounding "No."

So what can I say? Just giving people what they want.

Hard to have an intelligent argument with you. You bring no proof no logical explanations, no facts, no calculations - starting to think you are a female player playing based on emotions and not logic. (I kid - you could very well be an emotional driven male!).

Uh oh... sexism card was played. Now who's out of an argument?

Guys I don't know how to say it any way other then just stop responding to Hiir and Lhun. They don't understand math, have not killed anything of note and are the PRIME example of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning...3Kruger_effect .

The fact that they keep arguing stating Str over Vit and that crit is important should give you all the info you need about them.

I don't argue STR over VIT, nor do I argue VIT over STR. It's not hard to understand.

As to Hiir's actual comment, I think he's confusing the desire for things not to change with the desire for optimal performance. Anyone that you run with that is emotionally invested in you (i.e. friends with you) isn't going to recommend you play a class that you don't want to play (which, regardless of what you said, Hiir, you're pretty obviously not enthused by the idea of playing a PLD instead of a WAR). The answer you're getting has nothing to do with the comparative level of performance between the two classes and more to do with the fact that your friends don't want to offend you or make you feel bad by effectively requiring you to bring a class that you don't like.

I don't see where a change is even necessary. The people who desire the change, I don't believe are playing the class correctly.

As for my "friends"... I barely know them. We get along just fine. It's not just me being a WAR that's not "optimal", our party was not "Optimal" (one BRD, one BLM, lots of melee, Two healers). If they didn't want suggest I play PLD to avoid hurting my feelings, what about everyone else?

Maybe they're just not your typical close minded, one-set-up-onry typical endgame folks who couldn't think out of the box if you drew them a diagram and wrote step by step instructions.