XIV WAR Tanking - Baseline Mitigation and PLD comparison

[Kitru]

(Not trying to offend - just my observations).

Personally, I find that incredibly offensive, mainly because it operates under the supposition that women are slaves to their emotions whereas men are purely logical and in control. Even if you want to discuss gender differences from a psychological standpoint, women are only slightly more prone to instinctive and emotion reaction than men are, but factors like race, age, and occupation/education/field of expertise play a *much* larger role than gender does.

As to Hiir's actual comment, I think he's confusing the desire for things not to change with the desire for optimal performance. Anyone that you run with that is emotionally invested in you (i.e. friends with you) isn't going to recommend you play a class that you don't want to play (which, regardless of what you said, Hiir, you're pretty obviously not enthused by the idea of playing a PLD instead of a WAR). The answer you're getting has nothing to do with the comparative level of performance between the two classes and more to do with the fact that your friends don't want to offend you or make you feel bad by effectively requiring you to bring a class that you don't like.

[Vire]

Hard to have an intelligent argument with you. You bring no proof no logical explanations, no facts, no calculations - starting to think you are a female player playing based on emotions and not logic (Not trying to offend - just my observations).

If you have to preface what you said not trying to offend you are already trying to excuse crappy behavior. Attack the persons arguments not the person. This is no better then when they come in here loudly shouting bad math.

[Tanaya]

(Not trying to offend - just my observations).

If you're trying to disclaim an offensive comment, usually it's better not to say it in the first place.

[Dhex]

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I agree with Kitru. That was offensive Derz... whether you were trying to be or not.


Hiir's experiences are valid to Hiir - but those experiences are frequently counter to the mathematical and factual data that people observe/test/postulate; and that's fine. Personally I think Hiir benefits from having highly supportive friends that play their classes exceptionally well. Work wise - Hiir has Darksteel body gear with all slots melded, and 3 or 4 overmelds, a Relic +1, and several other pieces of Darklight/Hero equipment on her Warrior; she's done her best to figure out what works for her.

Her Warrior is her preference - despite the fact that Paladin has simpler core mechanics, more utility, and survival capability - no there is no parse/information/calculation or demonstration of an instance where Warrior is equal or superior to support her argument - information coming from Hiir isn't tested in a controlled environment and thus unverifiable. In a debate where we're discussing fundamental core flaws Hiir's input is often nothing more than pedantic. I'm on the same server as them - they're a very nice person but not really interested in changing\improving\discussing the core mechanics of Warrior.

[HiirNoivl]

I'm more than happy to discuss, but in one sense you're right. I would have to reach an actual situation in game where I could not surmount it no matter what I tried. Maybe that's Turn 4... or Turn 5... I'm hungry for it.

I love a challenge. Maybe that's why all the crying and whining irritates me that much... maybe that's why I don't like PLD, heh.

My secondary is SMN, another underdog job... so maybe I just enjoy cheering for a "losing team"?

But in the end, yeah, I'm decided that WAR is my main job. I need to be challenged in this game. I love tanking Caduceus and stretching my wings so to speak. Garuda is boring. Titan is face roll.

Are they right? Are WARs suboptimal tanks in practice and not just on paper? I've yet to seee. Turn 3 here I come. ^_^

[Derza]

Yea sorry about that i had changed my post like 5 times... Then someone came by (i'm at work) so i got distracted I was going to remove that. Sorry to everyone i might have offended! I was going to take out the female part compeletly I know it was a bad thing to say and i don't believe it even lol... Sorry once again

[Kaalan]

Well it's true tho, female gamer are inferior to us.

Now bring me the pop corn.

[Dhex]

Well it's true tho, female gamer are inferior to us.

Now bring me the pop corn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gciFoEbOA8

[Marveth]

Well this thread pretty much says it all. From now on I will only take PLD to end game content.

[CurlyBruce]

My secondary is SMN, another underdog job... so maybe I just enjoy cheering for a "losing team"?

Since when was SMN an underdog job....SMN is ridiculously good and I haven't seen anyone who actually knows how to play well say otherwise.

Turn 3 here I come. ^_^

I await your response where you try to argue for WARs superiority because you did fine in Turn 3 coil, even though Turn 3 is literally nothing but trash mobs and doesn't even have a boss.