This has to stop.

[Blaste]

Hrm to TC's opening comment THIS WILL NEVER STOP, honestly what did you expect? most of the runs on CM are speed runs, as for the story well as someone mentioned you can watch them from your inn room, seriously though when the kick option is fully implemented then watching those cutscenes could result in a player being kicked from the party, people talk about waiting outside the boundary during a boss fight? Boom kicked, its going to be an interesting month indeed. I mean just speed run the damn thing, least then you will know how to do it, then you can be happy that you are one step closer to gearing your character when the game truely begins after completing the story.

[Myrdyn_Wyldt]

I don't understand why people are so angry over this. SE is to blame...

No, they aren't. I understand that personal responsibility is not really popular these days, but no one is forced to bully other players. If you want a speed run, find some like-minded friends, and have your speed run. I think a big part of the problem is that people are willing to bully other players over the issue are also the same sort of people who have difficulty making friends in the game.

[Kewhi]

This debate really needs to end. For those who are anxious for speed runs, there is a very viable alternative for them to go about it which has already been stated: form a pre-made group with those rules set in place. If you choose to ignore this method and take a roll of the dice in the Duty Finder, then please remember that there are no special rules in force. You are taking a gamble on what the conditions of your group will be and there are no factors which allow you to become Supreme Emperor of the party. Anyone believing the contrary simply needs to get over themselves.

As for myself, personally.. the last time I checked, it is my banking information that will be funding my subscription. Therefore, I call the shots on how the game is played. Now, if there are those who feel "inconvenienced" by this, then they are more than happy to pay for my subscription. Until then, I suppose they will simply need to suck it up and deal with spending a few precious minutes of their lives watching a cut scene.

Don't let anyone bully you into skipping these. If you want to watch them while in the dungeon, then watch them. The fact that you can watch them again in the inn is irrelevant. When it comes down to it, what's the worst anyone can do to you in this game? Type angry words? Caps lock you to death?



Yeah.. absolutely frightening...

[Blaste]

Don't let anyone bully you into skipping these. If you want to watch them while in the dungeon, then watch them. The fact that you can watch them again in the inn is irrelevant. When it comes down to it, what's the worst anyone can do to you in this game? Type angry words? Caps lock you to death?

Kick you from the group when the feature is fully implemented.....yup terrifying..

[Reinheart]

Kick you from the group when the feature is fully implemented.....yup terrifying..

Like others said, what if the kick wasn't possible for someone who hasn't cleared the instance dungeon?

Not sure if it retains your first time dungeon run status even if you run out of time or for you just being in that dungeon once without clearing.
So until that clear flag is put on that character, the kick feature shouldn't allow anyone to kick the player just because he's new or watching cut scenes for his/her first time.

[Kewhi]

Kick you from the group when the feature is fully implemented.....yup terrifying..

You should really educate yourself on how the "vote to kick" feature is going to work, as I am afraid that you have been misinformed regarding its intent. It is reserved for those who have disconnected or become inactive (AFK).

And besides.. I'm a tank. You would rather kick the tank and wait in queue for a new one rather than wait a lesser amount of time for a cut scene to reach its completion? All the while, I would enjoy my instant queue to rejoin the same dungeon. I assure you, I believe I would manage just fine if this were the case... though unfortunately for you, it is not.

I think it's easier for newbies to find other newbies or people who don't mind, speed runners are the majority and you have to deal with it

You claim that "newbies" are in the minority yet somehow it is easier for them to find like minded individuals to run a dungeon with? Even though you go on to claim that speed runners are in the majority..

Meaning that there are more of them around. That there are a greater population of them.

Think about that statement for a moment and try to pinpoint the error in your logic. I'll wait here.

[Errors]

That being said.. I'd highly suggest finishing the game before the kick feature is added.

And that ladies and gentlemen is the reason why a kicking system can't be hastily implemented. SE has to figure out a nice balance to prevent people being kicked for watching the cut-scenes they put in place. Someone should be kicked for not the content they are presented but for their behavior foul behaviour or sabotaging a run. Watching cut-scenes isn't a kickable offense, especially since it's part of the content. I'm going to laugh if SE implements a kick function only that it can't be used against first timers to a dungeon run.

Speed runners, get a group of like minded people who want to speed run with you from your server, then you can run the instance over and over again, as fast as your hearts want and skip as many cut-scenes as you want. It takes just a few minutes to get a few people together from your server. You can just stand in Mor'dhona and see people shouting constantly. Do not expect a speed run using purely the DF with a pick up group.

[Pseudopsia]

Kick you from the group when the feature is fully implemented.....yup terrifying..

That would be abusing the kick feature. They will not implement it without solving most issues where people will abuse the feature. It may not even be in 2.1 patch. See Camate comment.

Hello,

From a technical standpoint, it wouldn't be very difficult to have a vote to kick feature for the Duty Finder, and we are planning to implement this.

However, as there is the concern that it could be used maliciously to get rid of players that groups do not like, we are working hard to create a system that reduces the chances for problems to occur. Due to this, we are continuing to look into the feature, as well as whether we will implement this in patch 2.1.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ck#post1360485

[Tiggy]

Because making 7 other people stand around for a total of like 20 minutes while you watch cutscenes that you can watch elsewhere is totaly not being a prick either....nope not at all

No. It isn't. Jumping into the Duty Finder and acting like a prick because someone was *gasp* new to the dungeon is the problem here. You don't like it? Leave. Go make a premade party. There is no excuse for shitting on someones day just because you're impatient despite deliberately going through channels that have a very high chance of pairing you with someone new.

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

- Albert Einstein

[Ricky]

They can watch them but everyone else is free to skip them and continue on, blame SE if the cutscenes begin to overlap