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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    @ seif, most of what you stated had a random factor to it. Mini games do not need to have a deeper meaning either... That is kinda what I mean be thinking to much.

    Anyway I'm not getting used to how limiting modern games are getting, nor have i really enjoyed it. I mostly been going after titles with more open world (the elder scrolls or fable) instead of games like dragon age where I can beat in a day or 2.
    Not to get off track but you are so right. Dragon age was such a letdown. IGN told me for years that it was going to be the new baldur's gate, it was not...

    It was a 20 hour friend that left after a mediocre weekend of going to a bunch of predictable places.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    I love how people pull that. " get stuff to x number theb talk" Like my opinion is going to change.. It isn't dude I've been gaming for a long time. When you think about it, it does seem tedious. Try to have fun with it. This is hpw I make crafting fun, I try tp improve the quailty of the crafts I'm doing. Trying to see how high I can get it before failing or succeding. I also try to improve my overal craftinf by instead of just getting a syth right to having it succed.
    There are infact 3 types of end results per syth. There is the doing it, succeding it, or failing. I do not just spam the same syth I try to use them in combination to get more successes then just crafting.

    You guys pull the tedious card to much for your personal choices.
    As he said get a craft to R30 then give an opinion, Yeah crafting was fun as hell when i did 8-10 synths per level at level 8 and ranked up. But at 30+ you need something like 2-300 synths per level, yes it does become very tedious. Crafting however just like endgame is usually not for everyone. Things should not be dumbed down or eased up, a R50 crafter should be the cream of the crop for the simple fact they put the time and effort into finishing something that was not meant to be easy for the everyday person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commat View Post
    Not to get off track but you are so right. Dragon age was such a letdown. IGN told me for years that it was going to be the new baldur's gate, it was not...

    It was a 20 hour friend that left after a mediocre weekend of going to a bunch of predictable places.
    tbh I didn't like baulders gate styled games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elkwood View Post
    As he said get a craft to R30 then give an opinion, Yeah crafting was fun as hell when i did 8-10 synths per level at level 8 and ranked up. But at 30+ you need something like 2-300 synths per level, yes it does become very tedious. Crafting however just like endgame is usually not for everyone. Things should not be dumbed down or eased up, a R50 crafter should be the cream of the crop for the simple fact they put the time and effort into finishing something that was not meant to be easy for the everyday person.
    sorry but my opinion isn't gonna change no matter if i'm 10 30 or max. Get over it. please. I do not play games like you guys do and for different reasons. Which is why I like ffxiv and you do not.

    PS one of my fave things about crafting are the animations. I started to laugh my butt off every time My lalafell did a rabid crp syth. I though it was fully to watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    sorry but my opinion isn't gonna change no matter if i'm 10 30 or max. Get over it. please. I do not play games like you guys do and for different reasons. Which is why I like ffxiv and you do not.

    PS one of my fave things about crafting are the animations. I started to laugh my butt off every time My lalafell did a rabid crp syth. I though it was fully to watch.
    Really you like FFXIV and I do not huh... Funny that's why I have 2 DOL classes to 25, 5 Crafts Over 25, 1 Craft near 35, and all jobs over 20, Conj at 47, Glad at 35... But yeah I don't like the game right. Your and idiot Kilta, you come on here and for all your posts you either don't even play the game anymore or you choose to hide your character behind some bogus disclaimer. You have 2500 posts on a game you know absolutely nothing about, or have obviously played so little that you could not possibly have any coherent conception of what most of us are upset about. Many of us are here because we loved XI, we want XIV to succeed, and by using most of our esteemed and fairly deep rooted physical playing knowledge of the game, we are trying to get SE to properly prioritize said issues with the game. So once again stop posting invalidated crap to which you obviously know nothing about. Either put up or shut up, either way I don't give a damn what you say, type, or think.
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    It take time, because they not want all to be R50 easy, but the problem is that they shouldn't make it so easy-boring mini-game like this. They should make it more challenge so that you won't feel so tedious.
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    i'm still for an automated animation going on while crafting to speed up the craft process itself.
    press standart/rapid/bold and get an instant reaction, not press s/r/b, wait for animation to finish and get a result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rekijitsu View Post
    The title pretty much says it all... I have low level crafting, and I've spent the whole day catching up Carpentry and other crafts, and while it's someone easy to do with the weapon grips, it's *very* slow, and *very* redundant. I like the emphasis on crafting in this game, and realize there are only 50 levels of it, but it only gets worse as time goes on...

    I just feel like to get crafts up to be useful for your fighting disciplines, you spend 100x more time to work on the crafts themselves than your main fighting discipline. I hate to make the game more casual, and like the difficulty, but does anyone think the war/magic disciplines level way too fast and the the hand/land ones way too slow?

    I think the game would be much better if these two speeds were reversed, though I know some crafters enjoy it, the majority who just want a few crafts for them to be useful for your war/magic disciplines find it to just be an incessant grind.

    I usually do the leves for them, this helps a *little*, but I think the rate at which war/magic levels with leves is waaaayyy faster than crafting leves.

    Also, the recipes themselves are a bit silly. Fish glue is used in things like one of the first bows you can make... Isn't it a bit weird how they've designed it?

    I think it might make sense to award a great deal more skill points based on what is being crafted. Maybe leave it as-is for things like weapon grips which are components, but actual equippable/usable items are usually harder to make and take more time to do so, so they should award more SP.
    Crafting in this game is terrible.
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    I have 8 crafts at 50. All I did was watch T.V. and spam standard for easy mode synths. Enjoy leveling those crafts in 1.19 and beyond everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    Still isn't slow in my book with the animations. It feels realistic in a sence. I like watching my lalafell work. I got happy I somehow hq'ed 2 of my maple lumber syths in a row :P And the animation it does.

    I think personally ppl dislike it because it isn't instant like WoW or ffxi or (instert mmo here) I like feeling I'm actually doing something. I personally think this is a personal grievence and if ppl dislike it can easily just not do it.
    Yah but your low level and/or dont play, so you dont know what it like higher level when you need to chor out 500 synths and 80% of your time is spendwatching dumbass animations and hitting standard over n over because the synth is just too easy but you dont want to risk oneshotting it and losing it.
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    Crafting is as "slow" as it needs to avoid overcrowding of the market. To people that normally enjoy crafting, this system is one of the best in the MMO genre and involves some very clever pieces like the interdipendent skills.

    The fact is simple, crafting is not for everyone, and *should not* be for everyone. If everyone crafts, there won't be a market. It's that simple.

    if you want to craft quickly, there is a solution for you: It's called Hasty Hand.

    It allows you to "all or nothing" every craft completely skipping the minigame at the expense of a lower SP rate (about half). Of course, if you have enough money for materials (and every self-respecting crafter should have tons), this still means that you're going to skillup MUCH faster than by doing it the normal way, considering that you get half the SP in 1/10 of the time.
    Funny that most people that bash crafting in this game don't even know what it does, even more funny since you get it as early as level 15, but after all criticizing what one doesn't even know is a common occurrence in this game.
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    Last edited by Abriael; 05-15-2011 at 09:55 PM.

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