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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    And that is different from every other video game known to man? You always going to push repeatitive buttons.
    There are difference between a fun button spam and mindless-tedious-stupidly-annoying-long-unrewarding-stupid-did-i-just-say-stupid-again?-button spam.

    Get your craft to r30 and tell me again if you enjoy crafting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    There are difference between a fun button spam and mindless-tedious-stupidly-annoying-long-unrewarding-stupid-did-i-just-say-stupid-again?-button spam.

    Get your craft to r30 and tell me again if you enjoy crafting.
    I love how people pull that. " get stuff to x number theb talk" Like my opinion is going to change.. It isn't dude I've been gaming for a long time. When you think about it, it does seem tedious. Try to have fun with it. This is hpw I make crafting fun, I try tp improve the quailty of the crafts I'm doing. Trying to see how high I can get it before failing or succeding. I also try to improve my overal craftinf by instead of just getting a syth right to having it succed.
    There are infact 3 types of end results per syth. There is the doing it, succeding it, or failing. I do not just spam the same syth I try to use them in combination to get more successes then just crafting.

    You guys pull the tedious card to much for your personal choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    Here is an overall suggestion, re-evaluate how you play games. Instead over over thinking the game try to have fun with it. You guys do not have to spam the same stuff like standered synth or the 1 button. Nor is the game forcing it on you. That is yalls choice. I've been playing this game for a couple weeks and never spamed really.
    Allright we might as well not fix anything then, just tell everyone to enjoy the game how it is, since of course its players fault that they are not enjoying it, can we put back UI lags while we are it? because if you can try to enjoy 3 seconds to open menu, then everything is ok, EVERYTHING IS GONNA BE OK TEEHEE ^_^

    Also i want my anima cost to be doubled again!! it is a way to make people explore the world, while walking alot must suck but if players can try to enjoy it, it will be enjoyable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    I love how people pull that. " get stuff to x number theb talk" Like my opinion is going to change.. It isn't dude I've been gaming for a long time. When you think about it, it does seem tedious. Try to have fun with it. This is hpw I make crafting fun, I try tp improve the quailty of the crafts I'm doing. Trying to see how high I can get it before failing or succeding. I also try to improve my overal craftinf by instead of just getting a syth right to having it succed.
    There are infact 3 types of end results per syth. There is the doing it, succeding it, or failing. I do not just spam the same syth I try to use them in combination to get more successes then just crafting.

    You guys pull the tedious card to much for your personal choices.
    As he said get a craft to R30 then give an opinion, Yeah crafting was fun as hell when i did 8-10 synths per level at level 8 and ranked up. But at 30+ you need something like 2-300 synths per level, yes it does become very tedious. Crafting however just like endgame is usually not for everyone. Things should not be dumbed down or eased up, a R50 crafter should be the cream of the crop for the simple fact they put the time and effort into finishing something that was not meant to be easy for the everyday person.
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    Here is an overall suggestion, re-evaluate how you play games. Instead over over thinking the game try to have fun with it. You guys do not have to spam the same stuff like standered synth or the 1 button. Nor is the game forcing it on you. That is yalls choice. I've been playing this game for a couple weeks and never spamed really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    Here is an overall suggestion, re-evaluate how you play games. Instead over over thinking the game try to have fun with it. You guys do not have to spam the same stuff like standered synth or the 1 button. Nor is the game forcing it on you. That is yalls choice. I've been playing this game for a couple weeks and never spamed really.
    Ok doctor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    Here is an overall suggestion, re-evaluate how you play games. Instead over over thinking the game try to have fun with it. You guys do not have to spam the same stuff like standered synth or the 1 button. Nor is the game forcing it on you. That is yalls choice. I've been playing this game for a couple weeks and never spamed really.
    Completely disagree. 95% of the time you don't need Bold Synth, and I honestly see no purpose in Rapid. Changing up standard synth when it is clearly the best choice for crafting anything non-HQ doesn't make it more dynamic. What makes it dynamic is if the game *forces* you to use the other two in certain situations. Personally, I would like to see White correspond with Standard, Yellow with Rapid, and Red with Bold, giving you something to "look for" and actually give you a choice between Rapid or Standard when its Yellow, or Bold or Standard when it's Red.

    Even then though, the animations are slow, and the realism card doesn't fit here because even with the animations as they are, they are too fast compared to real life. You may as well cut down the tedium, it is *not* fun sitting there watching the same thing happen over and over.

    I'm glad to see in some cases, the element becomes unstable. This usually only happens if you're leveling off of things too high though. I can see the minigame being fun if you're crafting something equippable, making it a bit exciting but it's just tedious doing it for everything.

    One way I see it, is for crafting ingredients for other synths, make the animations happen once, and without a minigame. The minigame is boring when you're doing it all the time, and should really only happen when making an end product. But hey, we have to design the game around preventing botting of course!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    There are difference between a fun button spam and mindless-tedious-stupidly-annoying-long-unrewarding-stupid-did-i-just-say-stupid-again?-button spam.

    Get your craft to r30 and tell me again if you enjoy crafting.
    I enjoy crafting. >_>
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    Did you expect something witty?

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    I only use Bold Synthesis if I have 85%+ progress and 40+ Durability, otherwise it's just way too risky.
    Rapid Synthesis I only use if I have a small amount of progress (60% or less) and barely any durability (like less than 25) so I can maybe save my Synth from failing.

    There is no other reason besides wanting to to use anything but Standard Synthesis. Doing so, unless you are far above the required synthing level, just gimps your crafting. I'd rather get full XP/SP + the item than gimp myself in all 3 ways just because I felt like using a different synth.

    Maybe if the synths were more "balanced" in terms of success rates...but right now, no. You can do better with just standard synth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    I only use Bold Synthesis if I have 85%+ progress and 40+ Durability, otherwise it's just way too risky.
    Rapid Synthesis I only use if I have a small amount of progress (60% or less) and barely any durability (like less than 25) so I can maybe save my Synth from failing.

    There is no other reason besides wanting to to use anything but Standard Synthesis. Doing so, unless you are far above the required synthing level, just gimps your crafting. I'd rather get full XP/SP + the item than gimp myself in all 3 ways just because I felt like using a different synth.

    Maybe if the synths were more "balanced" in terms of success rates...but right now, no. You can do better with just standard synth.
    That is still your fault not the games. I've had no issues so far and I don't spam anything. I've started with bold and been successful and even did 2 "hq's" in a row. I was doing some maple lumber ar r6 and got 2 syths that did 8 lumber vs 4. My stats are balanced and was in my archer gear
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