FATES need a nerf

[Chrysania]

Why do so many fate grind? Efficiency. People don't like feeling like they are wasting their time doing something sub optimal when they could be doing something more effective just as easily. Or for dps classes, 100 times easier.

Want dungeons to be what people do the most? Make them the most rewarding time investments. Nerf fates without fixing the otherwise existant problem of there flat being too few quests and not enough to do to level and watch how fast ARR joins 1.0 in the graveyard of dead things nobody cares about anymore.

[LOLyYOUcryin]

are you serious? lmao why cant you all just stfu and play the game? why must you all cry about it? nerf this nerf that.... are you mad? you are to lazy to grind up jobs? mad other people are blowing by you in the game? getting multiple relics and you are sitting on one job because you are lazy? stfu you all sound like little school girls crying over a leveling system put into the game to get jobs to 50 faster instead of grinding quest... lol

[Chrysania]

*Largely incogent mangling of English expressing a completely ignorable opinion goes here*

Fixed it for you. I'm not really a grammar Nazi, but you're doing the text equivalent of crapping yourself and chortling.

Please stop. Its embarrassing, mostly for you, whether you choose to understand this or don't.

[LOLyYOUcryin]

look i can use big boy words... im so cool. lol shut up with all that bs. you are making yourself look like a retarded a@@hole who looks at every word people type looking for mistakes. i guess you have nothing better to do with the free time you have. loser.

[MatTripp]

I really dont get why people wont allow others to play a game like they want too. Eventually its going to turn into fate grinding anyway, why is it so important to do low level dungeons? I say Fate's should stay the way they are because a lot of people are playing as they want to play and that should not be any concern of yours or anyone's for that matter.

[Shurrikhan]

Fire II twice. 18k xp. On boss-type Fates, run dps string 3-4 times and leave. 19k xp. Repeat from level 48 to 50. Shortest FATE I've seen... kill type, took 18 seconds, most of it in spawning the 3 separate waves. I'm not sure where the fun is in just trying to hit a group of targets once each before they disappear. The XP efficiency of it has either you running all over for a smidgen of combat or else hitting 50 well after your friends.

[Hik0]

you are to lazy to grind up jobs?
/.../leveling system put into the game to get jobs to 50 faster instead of grinding quest... lol

lol defending a lazy way to get XP by calling people against it lazy...

imo the multi50s alea rusher are way more lazy than someone doing all side quest, farming low lvl dunjon but only have 1-2 50s

not only does it deceive the point in the game, but because you can lvl so fast it makes gear/crafting/dungeons pointless for getting to 50.

(dungeons) - for gear and exp is pointless as the exp is no where near the exp you get from fates and the gear you will just outlvl anyway very quickly from doing easy mode fates

The content is not pointless.
player "50asap,everythingelse is trash"mentality make it pointless
My 1goal in a game is enjoyment, not getting the last piece of gear asap.
I get more enjoyment doing lowlvl dunjon with my low lvl, switch to my 50 and do few HL dunjon, than grind alea, then spam 2dunjons until finished

[Savar]

FATEs do NOT need a nerf.

Rather they should buff all the other methods of gaining experience.


Lets be honest, if you want an optimal class you're going to have to level a few classes to at least 40+ it shouldn't feel like a massive grind.

I don't like how FATEs are the only viable way to level quickly atm, but I don't want to see leveling as a whole slowed down, just make other forms better.

[Sylari]

The problem isn't really FATE XP though, the problem is that all the alternatives are just so bad.

Hell, I really enjoy group content but between how reliable they are and how horribly XP inefficient they are I can't really justify doing dungeons at lower levels just because the XP gained is so awful, that has nothing to do with FATEs, they're just horribly unrewarding.

Plus it's sort of obnoxious to come in here and decree that people who want to level quickly or who might enjoy zerging content are playing the game "wrong" and then demanding square destroy that for them. Fixing exploitable mechanics is one thing, but trying to make the whole game more grindy is just silly.

I heard they're doing something to ease the problem of people blazing to 50 in all their jobs

I keep seeing people throw comments like this around but no one's actually articulated why it's a 'problem' that the option to level more quickly exists.

[Moontide]

You all are looking at two sides of the same coin, people. "FATEs are fine, everything else just sucks" and "FATEs are bad because it gets too much EXP in comparison to its alternatives" is basically the same thing, just a matter of perspective. If anything they'd need to make FATEs more difficult. Solely for people actually starting to need to also gear up while leveling up they would make both crafting and dungeons slightly more relevant.

The primary argument for slowing XP intake down for most would probably be more long-term goals and thus more subscriptions. Sure, it'd mean more grind, but then again isn't that directly what most MMOs are about unless you're into PvP or roleplaying?