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  1. #1
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    pandabearcat's Avatar
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    People seem to throw around "it doesn't teach you your class" as if learning your class is a long and arduous journey that requires 40 hours of grinding to do.

    Learning a class is as easy as going into the forums, reading for 30 minutes, then maybe practicing for 30 minutes.

    The mechanics of MMOs aren't something special either...the people that learn how to avoid stuff learn it quickly...the ones that can't, generally never do.
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    Yoohre_WildRiver's Avatar
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    Yoohree Reborn
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Culinarian Lv 70
    i dont mind the XP you make in fates.. i would like to see fates made harder.. to EARN that XP... right now all i do when i join a fates nearby (i dont grind them, i got dignity lol) is TAB BIO TAB AERO TAB BIO... do this for 20 sec and i get GOLD RANK and 10-15k XP. no one dies, no need for party mechanics.. fates should change the name to "XP piñata!!!"
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    HeavensWard theme song lyrics:

    - "We can [Stance]dance if we want to
    We can leave your friends behind
    Cause your friends don't [Stance]dance
    And if they don't [Stance]dance
    Well they're no friends of mine"

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    PenutButter's Avatar
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    Peanut Little
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    I know a guy who got 4 jobs to 50 in a couple of weeks, averaging about 3-4 hours a day. Nobody should be able to do that in that time, nobody. The kicker is, he doesn't even play half of the time, he just AFK in a FATE party. So he got 4 level 50 jobs by doing absolutely nothing more than half the time. Can't say I blame him, FATEs are so mindless you might as well AFK.

    There are plenty of people who have ALL battle jobs to 50 before their one month free subscription is up, that's just ridiculous. Once they've beaten Coil, which probably won't happen, they would have literally done everything in the game.
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    PenutButter's Avatar
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    Peanut Little
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Endgame is all that matters? The only thing you do at 50 is grind AK or run Coil, and not many ppl are doing Coil because they don't have the gear, skill, confidence, or group organization to do it. All people do after getting a Job to 50 is: speed grind another Job to 50 via FATEs. And if "endgame is all that matters" is the mentality of this game, why not just give everyone the option to just instant 50? In fact, why even get another 50 job? You only need one 50 to do endgame.

    FATEs wouldn't be all that bad if not for FATE parties. Players SHOULD NOT be getting credits for things their party members do. Parties should not be necessary for anything except the harder FATEs like Behemoth, which are easy enough as it is, or to make a particular FATE more efficient (not necessary), or for social purposes.
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    KoujiGeki's Avatar
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    Kouji Geki
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PenutButter View Post
    Endgame is all that matters? The only thing you do at 50 is grind AK or run Coil, and not many ppl are doing Coil because they don't have the gear, skill, confidence, or group organization to do it. All people do after getting a Job to 50 is: speed grind another Job to 50 via FATEs. And if "endgame is all that matters" is the mentality of this game, why not just give everyone the option to just instant 50? In fact, why even get another 50 job? You only need one 50 to do endgame.

    FATEs wouldn't be all that bad if not for FATE parties. Players SHOULD NOT be getting credits for things their party members do. Parties should not be necessary for anything except the harder FATEs like Behemoth, which are easy enough as it is, or to make a particular FATE more efficient (not necessary), or for social purposes.
    Well it wouldnt have been the mind set if Yoshi himself didn't say the game starts at lvl 50, so thats the mentality.
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    PenutButter's Avatar
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    Peanut Little
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Something seriously needs to be done about FATEs; I understand they're trying to make the game more casual friendly but this is ridiculous. In FFXI, getting all 75 jobs was a grand feat that required dedication and the speed of which it was accomplished depended on your gear and performance. In here, you can do it mindlessly in 1/1000th the time.

    And no, its not that dungeons need a buff, FATEs NEEDS a nerf or serious tweaks. Period.

    I heard they're doing something to ease the problem of people blazing to 50 in all their jobs, which is good to hear. Unfortunately, a lot of damage is already done.
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    Last edited by PenutButter; 09-26-2013 at 03:46 AM.

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    Genjisamurai's Avatar
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    Character
    Renzo Genji
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Fates are fine stop complaining. I actually didnt use fates to get my main class to 50. Now that I ran out of quests. Fates are great and the best thing is I can get other classes to 50 without having to constantly upgrade my gear and waste inventory space.
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    Nozomi Yoshida
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 68
    i wonder about the people that complain, so how do you level after you done all the quests on your main and you want to level a second class to 50? Do you just grind monsters than?
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    Archangel Luna
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    you guys say nerf fate now but later on when u do sub job you be buff fates
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    Character
    Kaptain Pancake
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Guys, I know you want to level all your jobs. But is running from one end of the map to the other, to auto attack 4 enemies in a laggy zergfest to get gold rank is fun? Nevermind that your gear is 15 levels behind.
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