Remove AOE Toggle

[Choc]

of course it makes it too easy if you only heal. if you want a challenge turn it off and let half your party die then see how fast you get kicked out of a party. a mage does not have healing only as a role in party unless you are main healing an off tank by themselves.

Of course my party would die if I turn it off...Why are you trying to comment on your superior skills and acting like nobody else knows how to play? Im not complaining that cure needs to be single target, im saying healing needs to be a little more hands on and actually require some level of thought. Obviously doing only single target cures would be innefficient with the battle system NOW. But why are you even arguing about this? The battle system is crap and is getting changed, thats a fact, people are expressing what they want changed and not how they want people to use the current system.

I never said that I only heal in a party, I throw up plenty of debuffs and tp attacks as well. I was talking about HEALING not that I cant debuff. If anything I would preferr a set role in a party. Make me a healer only but make it difficult and I would be happy, I know this isnt what people want, but some of us love healing in mmos. Its wayyyyy to easy in this game. Wheres my various healing spells with different costs/cast times/cooldowns etc?

Honestly why are you claiming everyone doesnt know how to play the class when the common complaint is its too easy.....how does that make any sense?

[Rentahamster]

I'd prefer if offensive and defensive magic were toggled separately.

[Rhomagus]

I'd prefer if offensive and defensive magic were toggled separately.

I agree, again. I pretty much always want AoE Protect, Shell, Stoneskin, Cure, etc. There is no "curse" in the game yet so there's no reason not to have Cure AoE'd full time. There is a reason not to have nukes AoE'd all the time and with the action slot costs as they are it would be ridiculous to add separate spells just for AoE. If you're talking about removing action slot costs then that's a whole different topic, but I'm not for that either as it would probably turn into a generic linear RPG leveling system anyways.

I prefer the flexibility of the game. Anything that hinders that is a mistake in my opinion. Adding a widget for keyboard/mouse users or just keeping AoE toggles separate for offensive and defensive magic is a much more elegant solution than getting rid of action slot costs and adding separate AoE spells.

[ApplePie]

With AP costs? No way.

[Ava]

With AP costs? No way.

For all we know, they could do away with AP costs with the battle system changes. Or alter how they function entirely. The entire system is up in the air until the announcements next week.

[Moiren]

As a mage, I like the fact FFXIV allows us to AoE everything.

What I dont like? The fact the widget is not always shown. So, example, if I wanna make a Sleep macro (instead than selecting it from Action Bar), right now I have to do 2 of them: one with AoE ON and one with AoE off.

Solution? Make widget visible even for macros or, even better, make it visible fulltime.

[Irana]

Umm teh same button you use to toggle aoe is the button you use to initialize Battle Regimens...what are you talking about? O.o

[TrueStoryGuy]

I support this idea. Different set of spells for the -ga AOE effect will be effective. I don't understand why we have a Toggle in the first place, since the idea worked so well in past Final Fantasy titles, including XI.

[Rowyne]

I agree with the OP. Give us -ga spells. The AoE toggle has to go. I HATE having to confirm every time I cast a freaking spell whether or not I want to AoE. It's another example of badly designed extra button pushing.

[Wynn]

I do not agree with OP, I have the xbox 360 controller [wired USB] for the PC. It works great! my X button does AOE Toggle, Emote list and battle regimen it does not take up a whole button by its self. Please leave AOE widget how it is. The controller and button assignments is perfect imo.

Umm teh same button you use to toggle aoe is the button you use to initialize Battle Regimens...what are you talking about? O.o

Just re-posting these posts since some posters in this thread seem to be completely ignoring the blatantly erroneous concern of the OP in their "moar FFXI in XIV" campaign. In addition, I will also add to the voice of reason and confirm I also have no trouble with the AOE toggle button taking up space as the button functions perfectly fine in its other uses when not selecting a spell on your hot bar.

Situation as described by OP is false and a non-issue. This thread should be renamed to: Mages are OP so please remove AOE toggle. Or if you prefer: I liked FFXI, so please make spells just like that game. Call a spade a spade.