FFXIV Bitter Sweet

[Vivik]

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I can see where you're coming from as I am in the same situation, having much less time on my hands than I did eight years ago. I will say most of the people rushed to cap back in the day on new jobs because they simply could. If it was your first to 75 though, you know it was not that simple. I just feel that there should be at least a semblance of progression even if it is after the current level cap. Maybe at this point I'm just hoping that 50 is going to be the start of something much harder once the cap gets raised.

I was not fortunate enough to have played 11 when the cap was 50. Maybe someone can chime in who did and compare the two.

[Amiantos]

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I can agree on wanting a bit of feeling like you are progressing. I enjoy the game still a lot, maybe in the first expansion when they announce it a level cap increase will happen and before that a bit of a nerf on exp for FATES and round exp up in different areas.

[MistressAthena]

I can agree on wanting a bit of feeling like you are progressing. I enjoy the game still a lot, maybe in the first expansion when they announce it a level cap increase will happen and before that a bit of a nerf on exp for FATES and round exp up in different areas.

This is only a bandage on alot of the problems though. Like in 6-9 months after 3 huge updates happen, what's the game going to have? more fates? and what? more dungeons? All people truly have to look forward to is the same exact thing. Even if they raise the cap to 75 in 9 months it's going to take maybe 1-2 weeks tops to get that, then its back to grinding out those tomes.....

It also seems like they know this is an issue, and are trying to treat us like children by showing us a few flashy magic tricks while our mothers slip us some medicine we wouldn't normally like, but hey we don't care, this guy is doing a magic trick! (I'm refering to the fact that they are releasing the Golden Saucer with mini games, etc. and the Mog Houses. Granted they are cool additions, and I've been waiting very impatiently for the Mog Houses and FC HQ's, but that doesn't mean I'm not still totally aware of the complete lack of End Game content, when this game is supposed to be focusing on just that.. Ultimately the magic trick ruse isn't working for me...)

[Amiantos]

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Just curious if you dislike this game/direction it's going whats the point in continuing to play? I'm sorry if I'm misreading your stuff but from what it seems to me is you are not enjoying the game. I'm enjoying said magic tricks and I know others are but if you aren't why bother continuing to play?

[Mega_Man_U]

Just curious if you dislike this game/direction it's going whats the point in continuing to play? I'm sorry if I'm misreading your stuff but from what it seems to me is you are not enjoying the game. I'm enjoying said magic tricks and I know others are but if you aren't why bother continuing to play?

Also, going by that logic no MMO ever should have lasted more than six months.

[Azadross]

Just curious if you dislike this game/direction it's going whats the point in continuing to play? I'm sorry if I'm misreading your stuff but from what it seems to me is you are not enjoying the game. I'm enjoying said magic tricks and I know others are but if you aren't why bother continuing to play?

Or perhaps it is because they are passionate about the game and want to see it still running and healthy well into the future.

Whilst I am enjoying the game even I can see the shortcomings SE have created with a number of the directions they have chosen. One thing I didn't see SE comment about when looking to WoW for direction was "why is it in decline?", to which there is a number of different answers, but for myself and all the players from my guild it was the fact that Blizzard made everything so accessible/easy it became utterly boring. To many games have taken the euphoric feeling of achieving something that takes some effort and replaced it with a very deadpan "well that's done, what's next".

The other thing that I would point out is how many other games have followed WoW's manifesto only to have a large fall in player numbers after a short period of time due to racing people to this supposed magic end-game. I sometimes wonder why have levels at all in MMORPG's and not just create a lobby game if the "real" game starts at maximum level. The entire game from level 1-50 should be something everyone wants to partake in because it's interesting and has at least a modest amount of challenge rather than skipping to the end, currently it's like an author telling you to read the last chapter of a book first because the rest doesn't matter.

[MistressAthena]

Or perhaps it is because they are passionate about the game and want to see it still running and healthy well into the future.

Whilst I am enjoying the game even I can see the shortcomings SE have created with a number of the directions they have chosen. One thing I didn't see SE comment about when looking to WoW for direction was "why is it in decline?", to which there is a number of different answers, but for myself and all the players from my guild it was the fact that Blizzard made everything so accessible/easy it became utterly boring. To many games have taken the euphoric feeling of achieving something that takes some effort and replaced it with a very deadpan "well that's done, what's next".

The other thing that I would point out is how many other games have followed WoW's manifesto only to have a large fall in player numbers after a short period of time due to racing people to this supposed magic end-game. I sometimes wonder why have levels at all in MMORPG's and not just create a lobby game if the "real" game starts at maximum level. The entire game from level 1-50 should be something everyone wants to partake in because it's interesting and has at least a modest amount of challenge rather than skipping to the end, currently it's like an author telling you to read the last chapter of a book first because the rest doesn't matter.

Exactly! This is exactly the point I'm trying to get across, all of it.

[Jeronlmo]

Or perhaps it is because they are passionate about the game and want to see it still running and healthy well into the future.

Whilst I am enjoying the game even I can see the shortcomings SE have created with a number of the directions they have chosen. One thing I didn't see SE comment about when looking to WoW for direction was "why is it in decline?", to which there is a number of different answers, but for myself and all the players from my guild it was the fact that Blizzard made everything so accessible/easy it became utterly boring. To many games have taken the euphoric feeling of achieving something that takes some effort and replaced it with a very deadpan "well that's done, what's next".

The other thing that I would point out is how many other games have followed WoW's manifesto only to have a large fall in player numbers after a short period of time due to racing people to this supposed magic end-game. I sometimes wonder why have levels at all in MMORPG's and not just create a lobby game if the "real" game starts at maximum level. The entire game from level 1-50 should be something everyone wants to partake in because it's interesting and has at least a modest amount of challenge rather than skipping to the end, currently it's like an author telling you to read the last chapter of a book first because the rest doesn't matter.

I've said basically the same thing many times to people... the MMO genre seems to be going in a cycle, they started with no levels, and some newer MMO's are getting rid of them again (I believe GW2 is the game that lets you do endgame at any level, syncs you or w/e). The first MMO to make their game level-less in the future will prob be called revolutionary and make a fortune, then the first game 10-20yrs after that to "invent" levels will be called revolutionary.

[CaZx]

Just curious if you dislike this game/direction it's going whats the point in continuing to play? I'm sorry if I'm misreading your stuff but from what it seems to me is you are not enjoying the game. I'm enjoying said magic tricks and I know others are but if you aren't why bother continuing to play?

I think the reason is fairly simple. You have to understand that many of us, even the ones that are a little disappointed with the game, have a strong desire to play an MMO set in a Final Fantasy universe. The final fantasy brand has drawn me to this MMO and I want so bad for it to be a game I could get into for a long period of time. However, if I take a step back and look at the game realistically..I am not sure it has what it takes to keep people interested for the long haul. That said some of us still want to give it an opportunity while we continue to have some fun in the game..and maybe just maybe it will come around with future content.

The problem is that if it doesn't deliver with future expansions/updates than I am not sure that even the most hardcore Final Fantasy fans are going to be sticking around. Sure some will, but there are already many people hinting at the fact that their simply not sure if they want to subscribe at all when their free time is up because they have bum rushed the majority of the content already...and whats left isn't enough to keep their attention...at least enough for them to keep throwing money at it.