Warriors - How to fix our damage mitigation

[Kommunist]

You're doing it wrong.

It's not your class.

The ability that is killing you spreads it's damage amongst the targets it hits. One target; 5k. Two targets; 2.5k each. etc etc. The point of the fight is to use two tanks, who move and work together, to mitigate the damage.

Complaining on the forums that your class is broken while ignoring the fundamental mechanics of the fight you're complaining about is not helping your class.

I'm not really complaining, and didn't know you were meant to split the damage. Notwithstanding this, I was simply throwing it out there whether paladin solo tank it fine.

Anyways, WAR is cool, its fun. But the difference atm is enough for me to switch to a paladin. What I mean by this is, my friends currently prefer a fresh paladin tank over me! True story.

Now, they can do w/e they want with WAR, I can always have fun on it when I over gear content.

[Zarkhov]

This is what happened in and ruined class difficulty in WoW. People expect to mash buttons and not strategically use their abilities then cry when something goes wrong or someone has an ability that they don't. Stop whining. Square Enix should know better than giving in to the cry babies and making everything noob worthy.

[Zanther]

This is what happened in and ruined class difficulty in WoW. People expect to mash buttons and not strategically use their abilities then cry when something goes wrong or someone has an ability that they don't. Stop whining. Square Enix should know better than giving in to the cry babies and making everything noob worthy.

Paladin....

[Kiteless]

This is what happened in and ruined class difficulty in WoW. People expect to mash buttons and not strategically use their abilities then cry when something goes wrong or someone has an ability that they don't. Stop whining. Square Enix should know better than giving in to the cry babies and making everything noob worthy.

Says the guy who plays a Paladin

[Tronic]

This is what happened in and ruined class difficulty in WoW. People expect to mash buttons and not strategically use their abilities then cry when something goes wrong or someone has an ability that they don't. Stop whining. Square Enix should know better than giving in to the cry babies and making everything noob worthy.

There's already a faceroll tanking class: it's the PLD. But when WARs want to be viable, it's whining? It's still gonna be harder.

[Amayasu]

Notwithstanding this, I was simply throwing it out there whether paladin solo tank it fine.

I don't think so, I've tanked it a few times now as a Paladin, and when we messed up tank movement i'd eat the full hit and take a huge amount of damage. Ultimately it's a mechanic meant to force multiple tanks.

Try again with an off tank and you'll be fine chap.

As an aside, i'm also levelling my Marauder for the Warrior job. I know Paladins are in a better place at the moment, i'd like to see Warriors buffed, but it looks fun and it's still a very young game; things can and will change.

[Kommunist]

I don't think so, I've tanked it a few times now as a Paladin, and when we messed up tank movement i'd eat the full hit and take a huge amount of damage. Ultimately it's a mechanic meant to force multiple tanks.

Try again with an off tank and you'll be fine chap.

As an aside, i'm also levelling my Marauder for the Warrior job. I know Paladins are in a better place at the moment, i'd like to see Warriors buffed, but it looks fun and it's still a very young game; things can and will change.

WAR are great fun, hence the point of my original post, dont fix mitigation, increase our damage (how we are meant to be designed, or I thought). And one day, there will be a place for WARs, when that damage matters. Making them the same mitigation as paladin is no fun for me, class switching in this game is relatively easy, and if you havn't bought AF2 you have all your gear if you level a paladin and really havn't lost that much.

But seem like people just want WARs tanky like a pal =/

[Zanther]

WAR are great fun, hence the point of my original post, dont fix mitigation, increase our damage (how we are meant to be designed, or I thought). And one day, there will be a place for WARs, when that damage matters. Making them the same mitigation as paladin is no fun for me, class switching in this game is relatively easy, and if you havn't bought AF2 you have all your gear if you level a paladin and really havn't lost that much.

I'll say it again. No one wants you for your damage. My FC (turn 5) refuses to take warriors currently. If we want damage, we'll take dps classes. We take tanks to soak up damage. Warriors are mana vacuums compared to paladins. No decent FC is their right mind will take a warrior to BC period as paladins are superior in every aspect for every boss fight.

Warriors need more "oh shit" buttons and better ways to reduce the amount of mana they suck up. Simple as that

[Kommunist]

I'll say it again. No one wants you for your damage. My FC (turn 5) refuses to take warriors currently. If we want damage, we'll take dps classes. We take tanks to soak up damage. Warriors are mana vacuums compared to paladins. No decent FC is their right mind will take a warrior to BC period as paladins are superior in every aspect for every boss fight.

Yes, that will always happen with top tiered guilds/FC/raiders. There will always be gap between classes, and beating challenging content people will resort to any advantage such as using 2 pal like you said.
Again, my point is, homogenizing WARs to have similar mitigation as pal is not fun. If you want to have that advantage, just have access to pal tank.
Because currently, we don't even provide what we are designed to provide (extra damage).

[Zanther]

Yes, that will always happen with top tiered guilds/FC/raiders. There will always be gap between classes, and beating challenging content people will resort to any advantage such as using 2 pal like you said.
Again, my point is, homogenizing WARs to have similar mitigation as pal is not fun. If you want to have that advantage, just have access to pal tank.
Because currently, we don't even provide what we are designed to provide (extra damage).

I'll say it for a 3rd time. No one is going to take you because you have extra damage. You are a tank class. You will be picked based off of how much damage you take and mana required to keep you alive, not how much extra damage you do. This is why people take paladins, they survive "oh shit" bursts with way less effort. Is this hard to understand?

Warriors need:

More def cooldowns
Perma buff that increases healing done not based off of wrath
increased self heal amount