Dungeon progress shouldn't be allowed while party members are watching cutscenes

[Yoko_Kurama]

paragraph that spoke about reality and made sense

Just to let you know be careful with the F bombs, i just got back from a 10 day ban for saying the F word in a post a while back lol.

[BedroomRockstar01]

Everyone who complains about this will turn around and do the same thing whn you realize how stupid the end-game currently is in regards to philosophy acquisition.

Absolutely. If you're not skipping cutscenes and moving ahead without people, it's only because you haven't farmed it dozens of times yet. In the time it takes to watch some of the scenes, the boss can actually be killed. I'm not going to be rude to someone about watching them, but I'm not going to add an extra 30+ minutes to my run while people watch movies.

[Rivienne]

Absolutely. If you're not skipping cutscenes and moving ahead without people, it's only because you

... aren't a jerk.

Fixed that for you.

Edit:

Or perhaps you're being a jerk by stalling the time of the 7 other people looking to run the instance? I'm not saying you're right and I'm wrong, but merely that there's not going to be a satisfactory resolution of this issue under the current system. I won't insult you or act like a jerk just because you want to watch your movies, but do not expect me and everyone else to accomodate your singular desire.

As it happens, I have no problem skipping that which I have already seen. But I will not rush ahead if someone else hasn't seen it. It is common courtesy, as other people have mentioned, to allow first timers to experience it. That is all it is. Being courteous to others will not ruin your experience.

Not to mention, according the user agreement you agreed to, you actually are in the wrong.

"3.2 Disruption. You may not in any way disrupt or interfere with the Game experience of other players,"

I.e. locking them out of a fight/leaving them behind because you wouldn't wait for them to finish the cut-scene. And yes, watching the cut-scene is "part of the game experience" as intended by the developers, therefore you are indeed in the wrong. They added skip at players request for those like you who wish to rush, but not so you could do so at the expense of others.

You can't quote some nebulus concept such as "disrupt or interfere with the Game Experience" and expect any reasonable person to accept that. Are you familiar with the term "void for vagueness"? I could easily argue that by stalling the progression of 7 other players, you're interfering and disrupting their game experience.

Since you still don't seem to get it: from Yoshi-p "I’m repeating myself, but there is no need for players who are experiencing MMORPGs for the first time to overthink this. We’ve made it so you can have fun and reach your goal by preparing a ton of exciting and fun cutscenes"

He explicitly said that they made cut-scenes for first time players to enjoy and have fun with. He also stated the purpose of the duty finder was to be easy and not stressful as a way for first time players to get into the game. So when it says you may not disrupt the game experience of others, after the producer stated that they intentionally made cut-scenes part of the experience, and the duty finder was supposed to be a non-stressful solution for first-time playersm then no, this is not "vague" or "nebulous".

[BedroomRockstar01]

There is a difference between watching the cutscenes as they are presented, as the events are happening, and watching them later in your inn. A toddler could understand that.

If you haven't the empathy to understand why people would want to watch cutscenes that are the culmination of countless hours of story quests, in a story dungeon, then you're just hopeless and probably have other problems related to a lack of empathy, like stealing.

I could equally say you lack empathy for making 7 other people wait while you watch a movie, and then speculate as to your criminal behavior, but that would be asinine. The fact that you would correlate watching cutscenes to theft is amusing though.

[BedroomRockstar01]

... aren't a jerk.

Fixed that for you.

Or perhaps you're being a jerk by stalling the time of the 7 other people looking to run the instance? I'm not saying you're right and I'm wrong, but merely that there's not going to be a satisfactory resolution of this issue under the current system. I won't insult you or act like a jerk just because you want to watch your movies, but do not expect me and everyone else to accomodate your singular desire.

[Brises]

Everyone is entitled to watch the cut scenes once. They were put in the game to be viewed. I watch them all the first time, but then always skip after the first. If someone else is watching I am considerate to them and wait. I'm not going to get upset about it. I generally party mostly with FC members and we all know who is new to an instance and expect that they will want to watch the cut scenes. The nature of finding party members through duty finder is that you can't predict who you will get. Other people may not be on the same page as you. That's just a reality of MMOs that we have to be willing to work with. Anyone who doesn't like the randomness of other players should probably be playing single player games.

[Sapereaude]

Frankly neither party is acting rightly or wrongly, they just don't live in the same world and there isn't a common ground - that's SE's doing.

Incorrect.

Fighting a boss because you don't want to wait for someone to view the cutscene is wrong in light of the fact you are now forcing someone else to run the dungeon again to access the content you refused to grant them.

[Sapereaude]

Why should I care, you're ruining my farm run? Oh... wait... my time doesn't matter, fuck me and all the farm run people. Their few minutes are worth less than your few minutes. Makes sense. I'm not saying I'm right, I don't really care or need to be. Know this though, you sure the hell aren't either.

The difference here lies in impatience or not. You would be in the former camp and this is therefore why I find the attitude intolerable.

[SzaaKarna]

I cant agree more with the OP - I was honestly shocked to learn this the hard way when my party started a boss without me (healer) and ended up wiping which cost more time than just waiting for the CS

[Esura]

All this making me dread doing the level 50 dungeon when I get there. I swear if just one person go ahead of me while I watch cutscenes I wont heal/raise/remove status ailments on them through the entire dungeon, at all. Hopefully I'd be able to play with the people in my FC by then and not have to rely on DF though.