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    Dungeon progress shouldn't be allowed while party members are watching cutscenes

    It's incredibly annoying when you're watching a cut scene and impatient people rush ahead and you end up missing important boss encounters or party members end up killing themselves because the tank or healer hadn't started the encounter yet. Since FFXIV is a pretty story-heavy game it seems like kind of an oversight, especially since the game DOES prevent people from starting the dungeon during the introductory cut scene.

    I think it'd be pretty simple to solve this problem since other games have managed. Guild Wars, for example forces everyone to watch a cut scene until everyone has finished or chosen to skip. Another option would be to teleport everyone into a ringed-off area like the beginning of every dungeon for every boss encounter.

    I really hope something is done about this since right now its far too easy for rude players to ruin one of the most important aspects of the Final Fantasy series.
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    I haven't had a problem with this yet, or people screaming at me to skip, maybe I will at later levels. I agree with this idea though.
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    ~Quit moping, get hoping~

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    It gets bad once you get to level 50. I did the final main story dungeon tonight and some overgeared (this guy had a bunch of raid-level gear) tank kept complaining and going ahead and my friend and I ended up completely missing the final boss fight of the main story because we were watching the lead up cutscene and he and his buddies weren't patient or polite enough to wait a couple minutes.
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    today i have help a friend whm at do castrum and praetorium, for castrum the other tank, one blm and a dragoon was rushing when all the rest (exept me) had never done it. the dungeon have feel really bad, the moods was not good.
    after we have done praetorium (and believe me i was scared for this one) and believe it or not... exept me... all the other was first timer, they have look them cs and we did it the moods was exellent, they was enjoying the game totally, my friend was soo excited at the end of praetorium.

    all of this for say... we must'nt let the people that was here before ruin the game for the newcomers. it was them choice to rush like crazy... now if they use duty finder they must accept the fact first timer will be there. if they don't want to have first timer, mor dhona is always full of people organizing speedrun of cm.

    Castrum and Praetorium are the end and it will be nice to not forget that this 2 dungeon have a special feeling about them. and yeah the inn allows to re see the cs it was here because a lot of people have asked to be able to resee the big moment of the game. not for see for the first time what you was forced to skip for please people that want to speedrun!
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    Or, you know, SE could have thought about not making 2 story-line dungeons the most practical way of farming the end game currency they ignorantly created.

    Everyone who complains about this will turn around and do the same thing whn you realize how stupid the end-game currently is in regards to philosophy acquisition.
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    The problem is not so much with the people wanting to progress, but the duty finder throwing first-timers in with people who've already been there. They should simply introduce an option to the queueing where you can disable all cutscenes automatically and just get on with the dungeon. That way those who seek to farm castrum for the 30th time will not have to deal with cutscenes any more.

    After all, you may find it annoying that people move on ahead without you. But vice versa it's just as annoying. And terrible design is neither of our faults in the end, but something up to Square Enix to fix. And ringing people off is not the way to fix it, as it's just going to lead to more bad blood towards those not skipping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fornix View Post
    The problem is not so much with the people wanting to progress, but the duty finder throwing first-timers in with people who've already been there. They should simply introduce an option to the queueing where you can disable all cutscenes automatically and just get on with the dungeon. That way those who seek to farm castrum for the 30th time will not have to deal with cutscenes any more.
    Oh boy, you really didn't think that through did you, or are so selfish you did, either way it's a horrible idea.

    This is a problem I can see but creating a segregated area where the 'noobs' can play which is what you're arguing for is a hugely, HUGELY anti-social way to deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraggy View Post
    Oh boy, you really didn't think that through did you, or are so selfish you did, either way it's a horrible idea.

    This is a problem I can see but creating a segregated area where the 'noobs' can play which is what you're arguing for is a hugely, HUGELY anti-social way to deal with it.
    I highly disagree, nor do I see it as selfish. Much rather I believe your labeling of first-timers as noobs has a much more degrading and anti-social ring to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkm0d View Post
    Or, you know, SE could have thought about not making 2 story-line dungeons the most practical way of farming the end game currency they ignorantly created.

    Everyone who complains about this will turn around and do the same thing whn you realize how stupid the end-game currently is in regards to philosophy acquisition.
    If everyone in your group wants to farm then great, but poopsocking your way to 50 doesn't give you the right to undermine people's enjoyment of the game. I've started farming castrum but if there are newcomers in the group then I wait and let them watch the cutscenes because I'm not an asshole.
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    This is possible? I thought everyone was locked in place until the entire group was ready... wow

    Quote Originally Posted by homunyan View Post
    It gets bad once you get to level 50. I did the final main story dungeon tonight and some overgeared (this guy had a bunch of raid-level gear) tank kept complaining and going ahead and my friend and I ended up completely missing the final boss fight of the main story because we were watching the lead up cutscene and he and his buddies weren't patient or polite enough to wait a couple minutes.
    Ok, this needs to be fixed NOW. I can't believe this is possible...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kraggy View Post
    Oh boy, you really didn't think that through did you, or are so selfish you did, either way it's a horrible idea.

    This is a problem I can see but creating a segregated area where the 'noobs' can play which is what you're arguing for is a hugely, HUGELY anti-social way to deal with it.
    Huh? It's not THAT bad of an idea... it's pretty good actually. As a person doing the dungeon for the first time, I'd LOVE to have the option to do it ONLY with others also doing it for the first time. Sure, wait times may be quite long for those first-timers, but it would be nice to have the option.


    Anyways, I'm the Tank... good luck moving up without me. I hope people complain so I can put them in their place.
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    Last edited by Z3M0G; 09-18-2013 at 09:51 PM.

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