Warriors - How to fix our damage mitigation

[HiirNoivl]

First off, WAR and PAL weapons both do the same amount of damage so there is no equipment disparity; it's all based off of abilities.

Exactly.............. *sigh* That's what I've been trying to tell you.

Secondly, if you can *regularly* manage a 1700-2800 Inner Beast, I will eat my shoe. The only way you're getting those numbers is by boosting it *heavily* with CDs and scoring a critical hit, none of which are even remotely close to reliable, not to mention that, because you're waiting for a CD to be up, it might as well be the one you're saving Infuriate to recover from. Hell, that's *exactly* how I use my Inner Beast.

That's what you're supposed to do! Yes I can manage a regular 1700.... Geez, and it's not hard. You tell me "You can't do that!" Have you even TRIED? That's what you're supposed to do!

Yes I do parse, yes I do practice. Yes that makes all the difference.

Are you buffing your Inner Beast? That's my biggest question. The lowest I get on Inner Beast is probably 1100 because I NEVER do a naked inner beast, but I regularly hit 1700. I'm dead serious. Particularly on single target bosses.

I shouldn't have to stand up here and be the one to prove this. I don't even put on all my stats into STR. If you do put all your attribute points into STR, why in the world aren't you getting bigger numbers than me? That's a question I have.

How can you sit here and say that WAR doesn't do much more DPS than PLD, that it's Self heals don't matter, and that it has almost no survivability when we're both doing the same content successfully and you have more STR?

I don't know where WARs are breaking down. At this point I'm at a loss. I can go out and I can parse and I can get all the big numbers and I can come here and post them, like I have. and people cry, "Lucky shot!" or "Cherry picker! Make a FRAPS video!"

This is what I don't get People put points into STR. Why? I'm serious why are you putting point into this stat?. Vit is mostly the way to go. I feel that most people go for STR because they see ooo I can parry more damage. YES but your parry has a chance to occur. If you don't parry that hit or dodge it you don't have a shield so what keeps you for being alive. Your defence and your HP, bigger health pool means that you can take a lot more hits. Yes you are spikier then a PLD but that is always been the case for non shield tanks in any MMO your healers just need to work around it. Use your CD correctly and just let the healers figure out how to heal you.

STR would be the way to go if you had a Parry chance of 100%. But it's not so you want to rely on defence and health pool to keep you alive.

No, it's not because of Parry, it's because of self Heals. Even with 20 points into STR, so long as I have VIT accessories I still have more HP than PLDs by about 1000 and I can self heal myself just fine. The problem with dumping all my stuff into VIT is that I couldn't self heal and I relied too much on Mages and it prolonged the fight and was a stress on people. Also, it hurt enmity I was gaining from my DPS abilities a bit.

That extra 1000 HP cost a lot in the long run and really didn't help a lot. It doesn't matter if you have 8000 HP as a WAR. If you can't fill that HP pool you have no survivability.