Dungeon progress shouldn't be allowed while party members are watching cutscenes

[AngryNixon]

Or, you know, SE could have thought about not making 2 story-line dungeons the most practical way of farming the end game currency they ignorantly created. snip

This. The problem (as it regards CM anyhow) is that SE has created a set of conflicting expectations. What did you think would happen when you sandwich a "first time ever doing this" story requirement in the DF system with "CM speed runs for philo tokens" by people who are sick of the cut scenes and the dungeon itself and just want to get and in and out as fast as possible? Frankly neither party is acting rightly or wrongly, they just don't live in the same world and there isn't a common ground - that's SE's doing. It's a good idea to never ever ever expect and assume that strangers will hand over their patience to you willy-nilly, least of all internet people. And then SE went and made that awkward conflict unavoidable. GG.

[homunyan]

This is possible? I thought everyone was locked in place until the entire group was ready... wow

They are at the beginning of the dungeon but not in between any boss fights or other cutscenes which is really unfortunate.

[Hycinthus]

Agree 750% with the OP.

[homunyan]

This. The problem (as it regards CM anyhow) is that SE has created a set of conflicting expectations. What did you think would happen when you sandwich a "first time ever doing this" story requirement in the DF system with "CM speed runs for philo tokens" by people who are sick of the cut scenes and the dungeon itself and just want to get and in and out as fast as possible? Frankly neither party is acting rightly or wrongly, they just don't live in the same world and there isn't a common ground - that's SE's doing. It's a good idea to never ever ever expect and assume that strangers will hand over their patience to you willy-nilly, least of all internet people. And then SE went and made that awkward conflict unavoidable. GG.

Farmers are ruining someone's story experience and first timers are simply making impatient people wait a few more minutes. If you're so sick of running the dungeon having to wait makes you angry you probably should take a break. Just because it's "expected" for someone to be an impatient jerk doesn't make it okay.

[raelee]

Farmers are ruining someone's story experience and first timers are simply making impatient people wait a few more minutes. If you're so sick of running the dungeon having to wait makes you angry you probably should take a break. Just because it's "expected" for someone to be an impatient jerk doesn't make it okay.

So, what?
You're saying that every single time you're going to go in there to farm philosophy, you're going to watch the cutscene every time? No, I doubt that. You'll get sick of it sooner or later and become one of those "impatient jerks" you're so against right now. Happens to us all...

I might ask ppl to skip, but that's it, I only ask, I don't push them. Definitely agree that they should have made more endgame dungeons that are more practical for farming tomes.

The worst cutscenes are the two before Livia battle, so many party wipes due to them. Throwing in cutscenes during combat is retarded anyway.

But in any case, this.
Most of the groups I've been in usually ask them to skip, and if they don't want to we tell them we're going to go do the boss while they're watching. So far, I haven't seen any complaints like yours. A lot don't care if they don't have to do work on a boss fight :P

[Sove92]

Or, you know, SE could have thought about not making 2 story-line dungeons the most practical way of farming the end game currency they ignorantly created.

Everyone who complains about this will turn around and do the same thing whn you realize how stupid the end-game currently is in regards to philosophy acquisition.

I might ask ppl to skip, but that's it, I only ask, I don't push them. Definitely agree that they should have made more endgame dungeons that are more practical for farming tomes.

The worst cutscenes are the two before Livia battle, so many party wipes due to them. Throwing in cutscenes during combat is retarded anyway.

[Manila]

Oh boy, can you imagine if this actually existed? Some of those cutscenes have dialogue boxes that you have you click through. If I wanted to be a troll I could go afk, cutscenes would never finish, entire party would be stuck.

Honestly, your enjoyment of the dungeon may be ruined because the party advanced through cutscenes and left you in the dust, but you can always queue again. In fact, you will! Because getting tomes, if that's what you're into, basically requires it.

The cutscenes are extraordinarily long. My first praetorium run was with 6 of my fc and 1 random. He watched cutscenes, and we finished the entire dungeon before he finished. Cut scenes literally make the dungeon take 75% longer.

Dont beg for a crappy fix like forcing 7 People to extend their 42nd dungeon run almost twice as long for 1 first timer/RPer, ask for no more cutscenes inside of a dungeon.

[darkm0d]

I typically say something like "Oh boy, I guess people are going to watch all the cutscenes". I never see the "Someone in your party is new" message, so I dunno if it's just lazy PS3 users (not trying to sound totally mean) but I hear it can be harder to skip through CS's on a ps3 as load times vary.

What I don't get is the people who say nothing when it's their first time or they are new. My first run of CM I was carried so insanely hard. I skipped every cs because I wanted to watch them on my own later, and since I was new I stayed behind everyone and SHOCKINGLY noticed a certain pattern of avoiding enemies.

How people get to 50 without learning there is LoS agro is simply beyond me.

[Lucavern]

TBH, they should have come up with better alternatives than putting CSs in the middle of a dungeon. Or as others have indicated, not made these storyline dungeons part of the lvl 50 gear-grind. Trust me, I completely understand how the CSs in their current form are an essential part of understanding the story as it is happening in those dungeons the first time. But their current implementation is creating a community issue.

Someone mentioned putting a lock on movement while anybody is in CS. This is a bad idea as you will inevitably get someone who will get in the cs and stay there to troll people. I do like the idea that was posed about creating a DF Option that can be toggled to make instances where all CS are instantly skipped, and you can't skip CS if the option is not checked. I don't think it would segment the community that much at all, and the segmentation it does create would be beneficial.

[cainejw]

OP will be glad to know that you can watch any and all cutscenes at your enjoyment in your inn. That way you can make sure to always be caught up on the storyline regardless of if you skipped a cutscene or not!