The current battle system mainly calculate everything from Your Rank vs Mob Rank

[Physic]

Also another test with "Shadowsear" because shadowsear completely ignores Dlv and magic defense, so it is very easy to test, try it with basic INT and with 80-90 INT, it is a very clear increase from 400normal-500crit to 600normal-800crit to NMs.

once again, ignoring mdef is probably the biggest factor in that equation, in fact test ints effect with monsters that are the same level. (this takes dlevel completely out of the equation), then using that data you can start to get an idea what effect your mdef vs mattack has. on your damage

[Kurokikaze]

notice that ignores MDEF this is the equivalent of spirits within.

here is the obvious factor, what level are these NMs, do you really think they are drastically higher level than you guys at 50? what are you basing that on? because your damage sucks?
Going by the rules of other NMs in this game, and in FFXI nms are generally not that much more high level than you, they generally have way better stats.

Your entire theory is based on the premise that endgame things are higher level, and dlevel is ruining your stats, when in actuality it is probably the opposite. Dlevel is probably a very small factor in this equation. becuase to be perfectly honest, the things that reduce my damage to the damage you guys get on these NMs do so much damage to me in one hit (DUE TO DLEVEL) that its impossible to survive.

think about it, how high a level vulture do you have to attack for your damage to be that low? how hard does it hit you.

This is like talking to a wall.

Get to 50 and figure it out. You keep asking for proof but dont provide any proof to disprove what many of us here are telling you FROM ACTUAL TESTS.

[Chardrizard]

once again, ignoring mdef is probably the biggest factor in that equation, in fact test ints effect with monsters that are the same level. (this takes dlevel completely out of the equation), then using that data you can start to get an idea what effect your mdef vs mattack has. on your damage

was just proving that stats arent broken and 'probably' are working as intended.

>_>
also, nobody is going to test those dlvl really. It is very easy to spot on NMs, bring 5 ppl that range varies between r45-50 and takes damage from one of the NM, you have your test that dlvl equations are just that imbalance.

[Physic]

All magic does that...aero on brags does teh same thing. At basic INT and PIE, you get big resists and hit for 80. At 90 INT and PIE you start hitting for 200-300. At 174 INT and PIE...well it's pointless. You hit a wall at about 120 at most and the only way to get better, past half-assing your job because doing more than half-assing it is pointless...is to level up. Then holy crap suddenly your nukes hit for 600 instead of 200.

I dare any R50 conjurer to NOT spirit dart Uraeus for 33-35 damage. Dare you. Can you even do it? I know you can't do better, but can you do WORSE? I don't even know.

How MUCH can I strip and still do that? Well I can strip to a NQ jade crook. I can stop eating food. I can despec 50 INT and PIE points.
I can accidentally wear my crafting gear. Kid you not.

What do I have to do as a R50 conjurer to not hit Uraeus for 33-35 damage? Seriously. Guess what my criticals do to it. Holy crap 33-35 damage. Amazing. It's like NOTHING EVEN MATTERS BUT LEVEL

Once again taking out dlevel would probably just leave you stuck at 33 damage forever, its most likely its not the dlevel effecting your lack of anything mattering, but rather the base defenses of the mob you are dealing with.

Since your stats arent breaking through his, your dlevel is the only factor. Im used to this, this is what it was like trying to do damage to tiamat on monk. nothing had any effect, except chi blast, and they reduced thats effectiveness by like 1/2 so people couldnt just use skills that ignore defense.
eating meat, adding attack, unless i boosted like 5+ times i would barely see an effect. Of course when i boosted like 12 times, wow its like a slightly strong normal monster. too bad 12 boosts meant i had 999 attack and there was no way to get that normally.

The NMs are not a test of dlevel, because NMs always have ridiculous stats. to test dlevel effects test your damage versus mobs of the same name, but different levels with the same equipment, i have so i know dlevel doesnt explain the phenomena you are talking about

[Physic]

>_>
also, nobody is going to test those dlvl really. It is very easy to spot on NMs, bring 5 ppl that range varies between r45-50 and takes damage from one of the NM, you have your test that dlvl equations are just that imbalance.

once again, testing on NMs is a bad bet. they have altered stats, and i know its not about dlevel, because i can look at the exp gained, and the mob type and tell that its not even a high level monster.

[Kurokikaze]

You say that NMs aren't a test of DLVL but you use Tiamat as an example when you yourself believe that NMs are not that much higher than you.

You're clearly not aware that Tiamat is Lv95 and was relevant when the cap was 75. Thats a 20 level difference just in case your math is as bad as your logic.

[Chardrizard]

once again, testing on NMs is a bad bet. they have altered stats, and i know its not about dlevel, because i can look at the exp gained, and the mob type and tell that its not even a high level monster.

fine bring r15-r20 glad to a crab at cassipeia hollow.

[Kurokikaze]

fine bring r15-r20 glad to a crab at cassipeia hollow.

Dude I like how its the guy that isn't 50, not providing proof or testing his own hypothesis trying to sell US on his theory.

As I said before;

Theorycrafting damage formulas are done specifically for the purpose of performing well in End-Game. Testing on NMs and mobs that are at the floor are the most important monsters that can be tested on. No one cares about your damage at any other level but the cap.

[Chardrizard]

Dude I like how its the guy that isn't 50, not providing proof or testing his own hypothesis trying to sell US on his theory.

sounds normal, that is how this forum runs isnt it?

[Lerris]

And thats why you use the Lv1 critters as the control because if it works one way the opposite is most likely the case.
You have yet to disprove anything using proof yet you keep asking for proof.

Don't use Level 1 critters as a control.

If the variable you are testing is the difference in rank, then the control group MUST be the same rank as your character. Then you need to test creatures of the same type at different ranks, keeping everything else the same.


Also, burden of proof is on the person making the initial claim.